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John Holland
New York, Passenger Lists
Name: John Holland
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1847
Event Place: New York City, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 10
Birth Year (Estimated): 1837
Birthplace: Ireland
Ship Name: Hottinguer

John Holland
Massachusetts, Deaths
Name: John Holland
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 01 Sep 1852
Event Place: Waltham, Massachusetts
Gender: Male
Age: 15
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Laborer
Birthplace: Ireland
Birth Year (Estimated): 1837

Holland added this to the other thread today - copied here to keep everything together:

"I have had another word with my Mum who has found my Grandfathers Baptisim cert.Kyran Holland was Baptised on 26th June 1904 in Saint Peter and Pauls Church,Clonmel.He was Baptised by Rev P.Doocey???..The sponsers were called Peter Hayes and Ellen Slattery.Another possible lead is that my Mum thinks my Grandfathers Brother Patrick Joseph Holland lived and farmed in the GALTEE Mountains and possibly married someone called Elizabeth,surname unknown.Also one of Kyran and Patricks Sister may have lived in O Connor/O Connal street in Dublin.I never realised how many names were repeated through the Family!!! "


Holland -
Peter Hayes and Ellen Mullane were witnesses at Philip's marriage (see earlier post on here). Same people??

Thank you for the further information,I will have to read it through a couple more times for it to sink in!! Your help is gratefully appreciated.

ArgyllGran....Going to have to be careful with this one as you say there are a few Keiran/Kyran Holland's but only 1 who married a Briget Kealy/Keely.. I have only found 1 Phillip b.1863 that was to Kyran and Brid so this Birth date is too early for Phillip Holland...(unless his age on enlistment was way out).

Edit...Forgot to add this..

.Baptism 1863 Galmoy

Name.....Father.........Mother...........Townland

Kyran. Holland Kyran. Bridget Kealy Moonynamuck (should read Moneynamuck)

All these Philips and Kyran's are confusing. (And Bridgets!)

FamilySearch brings up lots of records of various Hollands in Johnstown / Rathlogan .

A tree on FS says Philip's mother was Bridget Kealy, born 1841 Galmoy, Kilkenny.
Married Kyran on 16/02/1858 in Galmoy.


From FS:
Ireland Births and Baptisms
Name:
Bridget
Gender:
Female
Christening Place:
715, JOHNSTOWN, KILK, IRE
Birth Date:
08 Nov 1870
Birthplace:
Johnstown, Kilk, Ire
Father's Name:
Kyran Holland
Mother's Name:
Bridget Keely



Ireland Births and Baptisms
Name:
William Holland
Gender:
Male
Birth Date:
23 Dec 1872
Birthplace:
Kilkenny, Ireland
Father's Name:
Kyran Holland
Mother's Name:
Bridget Keely



Ireland Births and Baptisms
Name:
Eliza Holland
Gender:
Female
Birth Date:
03 May 1868
Birthplace:
Kilkenny, Ireland
Father's Name:
Kyran Holland
Mother's Name:
Bridget Keely

A tree on Ancestry says Philip's father Kyran was born 30/11/1833 in Rathlogan, Johnstown, Kilkenny.

Parents: Philip Holland 1805 - 1872; Bridget McKey 1793 - 1873. (Married 1827 Lisdowney, Kilkenny.)

Siblings:

Catherine Holland
1823 –

William Holland
1824 – 1910

Elizabeth Holland
1828 –

Philip Holland
1831 – 1900

John Holland
1837 –

Keiran/Kyran Holland 1911 Census...
Urlingford Workhouse Returns.

Given Bridget's Death details were Reg Urlingford I guess she may also have been a Resident there.



H K 76 Male - Roman Catholic Kilkenny Carpenter Read and write

A million thanks ArgyllGran was hoping his parents names were on the Attestation Papers...cant find father Kieran/Kyran on the 1911 so far...but should be able be able to go back a generation for Holland with the info.you have supplied.

Birth of his sister Bridget:

Bridget Holland
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958

Name: Bridget Holland
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1882
Registration district: Urlingford
Volume: 3
Page: 602
FHL Film Number: 101058

Phiilp's father's death ?:

Kieran Holland
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958

Name: Kieran Holland
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1911
Death Age: 76
Registration district: Urlingford, Kilkenny
Volume: 3
Page: 418
FHL Film Number: 0101605


Death of his mother ?:

Bridget Holland

in the Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
Name: Bridget Holland
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1907
Death Age: 74
Registration district: Urlingford
Volume: 3
Page: 411
FHL Film Number: 0101603

Philip's parents and sister:

Kyran Holland

in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
Name: Kyran Holland
Gender: Male
Age: 66
Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation to Head: Head
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street: Johnstown
District: Johnstown
County: Kilkenny
Household Members:
Name Age
Kyran Holland 66
Bridget Holland 67
Bridget Holland 19

??? Just possibly ????

Birth a year out ?:

Josephine Holland

in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Josephine Holland
Birth Date: 19 Mar 1910
Date of Registration: Dec 1991
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Newbury
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 19
Page: 189

http://www.angloboerwar.com/medals-and-awards/british/1875-queens-south-africa-medal

Further detail from the Service Record:

He was a carpenter.
Born in Galmoyle, Johnstown, Kilkenny.
Joined up in Clonmel, 31/01/1891.
5ft, 9.5ins; fresh complexion; grey eyes; light brown hair.
Roman Catholic.

Most of the details of his service are unreadable, but:

21 Feb 1898 - permitted to extend (something) to complete (something).
Permitted to re-engage to complete 21 years.
Appointed Lance Corporal 11/11/1903.
24 Oct 1911 - Permitted to continue in service beyond 21 years.
30 Sept 1912 - Discharged, having claimed discharge after 3 months notice.

Educated at Royal Military Asylum and Royal Hibernian Military School.
Qualified Sanitary Police Duties, Clonmel.
Served in South African Campaign 1899 - 190?
Awarded Queens South Africa Medal with Clasps, for Wittebergen, Belfast, Cape Colony & Sth Africa 1901.
Silver medal for long service and good conduct with gratuity.
appended to (something).
NOK: Father - Kyran. Mother - Bridget.
Brothers - Kyran (older), William (younger)
Sisters - Mary (?), Anne, Margaret, Catherine, Elizabeth
Wife Elizabeth with husband.

Marriage: Elizabeth Osullivan, spinster; Limerick 4th Aug 1898; married by Revd M O'Donnell; witnesses - Peter Hayes and Ellen Mullane.

Children:
Mary Bridget, born 28/11/1902, clonmel; baptised 30/11/1902 Clonmel.
Kieran, born 22/06/04 Clonmel; baptised 26/06/04 Clonmel.
Anne Christiana, born 15/06/06 Clonmel; baptised 17/06/06 Clonmel.
Patrick Joseph, born 25/03/08 Clonmel; baptised 29/03/08 Clonmel.
Josephine, born 19/03/11 Clonmel; baptised 26/03/11 Clonmel

Does the details of an Army Service for Philip give you an indication if we are looking at the correct family....?

Thank you to everyone who has taken the time and trouble to help me with this search,its very much appreciated.

Thanks for the above ArgyllGran...given the birthdate then this one will be more likelyto be Philip....

P.H. Davis Road Clonmel East Urban Tipperary 39 M Kilkenny Carpenter other details re Regt etc remain the same.

Philip Holland

in the Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958

Name: Philip Holland
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1898
Registration district: Limerick
Volume: 5
Page Number: 211
FHL Film Number: 101259
Records on Page:
Name
Elizabeth Sullivan <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mary Behan
John Doherty
Margaret Doherty
Philip Holland <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Timothy Moloney
Mary Ellen Boland

Phillip Holland
in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

Name: Phillip Holland
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1872
Birth Place: Galmoyle, Kilkenny
Enlistment Age: 19
Marriage Date: 4 Aug 1898
Marriage Place: Limerick
Document Year: 1891
Regimental Number: 3816
Regiment Name: Royal Irish Regiment
Number of Images: 7
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Other Records: Search for 'Phillip Holland' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Phillip Holland Self (Head)
Elizabeth Osullivan Spouse
Mary Bridget Holland Child
Kieran Holland Child
Anne Christiana Holland Child
Patrick Joseph Holland Child
Josephine Holland Child