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Lorraine

Lorraine Report 31 May 2015 15:00

I am looking for any information about my grandads relative's. He was Herbert George paterson born in Royston in 1892. Siblings are Alec,Frederick,Nellie,Charles,Margery,Lillian and Jack . They moved to Emsworth after 1st world war I think . thank you Lorraine

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2015 15:11

I'm not readily seeing him on censuses.

Do you mean Royston, Yorkshire, or Royston, Glasgow?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2015 15:13

Ah, I see it's neither of those, but is in Hertfordshire (or Cambridgeshire.).


Births Sep 1892 (>99%)
Paterson Herbert George Royston 3a 518

Gee

Gee Report 31 May 2015 15:13

Herbt G Paterson

Age:8

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1893

Relation to Head:Son (Child)

Gender:Male

Father:
James Paterson

Mother:
Vellie Paterson

Birth Place:Bassingbourn, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish:Royston

Ecclesiastical parish:Royston St John the Baptist

Town:Royston

County/Island:Hertfordshire


Registration district:Royston

Sub-registration district:Melbourn

ED, institution, or vessel:17

Piece:1297

Folio:24

Page Number:3

Household schedule number:
15

Household Members:


Name

Age


James Paterson 40
Vellie Paterson 30
Fredk J Paterson 12
Alec J Paterson 10
Herbt G Paterson 8
Charles R Paterson 6
Nellie F A Paterson 4
Lilian J Paterson 2

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 May 2015 15:14

Or Royston, Herts.?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 May 2015 15:14

One also Hertfordshire, borders onto Cambs.

Chris :)

(lol, too late!)

1911 (Parents)
James Paterson Head Married Male 47 1864 Glasgow Lanark Letter Press Printer
Eleanor Mary Paterson Wife Married Female 39 1872 Royston Herts
Alec F Paterson Son Single Male 20 1891 Royston Herts Engineers Turner
Charles R Paterson Son Single Male 16 1895 Royston Herts Ironmonger Shop Assistant
Nellie F Paterson Daughter - Female 14 1897 Royston Herts Shop Assistant Stationer
Lilian J Paterson Daughter - Female 12 1899 Royston Herts School
Margery H Paterson Daughter - Female 6 1905 Royston Herts School
Address Victoria House Old North Road Royston
Parish Royston
County Hertfordshire
Census reference RG14 PN7567 RG78 PN370 RD135 SD3 ED15 SN213

(on image, Married 23yrs, 7 children born, 7 living)



Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%)
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PATERSON James Pancras 1b 77
Sell Eleanor Mary Pancras 1b 77

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2015 15:19

Lilian Janet Paterson
in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Lilian Janet Paterson
Registration Year: 1899
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Royston
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 615



Lilian J Paterson

in the 1911 England Census
Name: Lilian J Paterson
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Daughter (Child)
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Royston, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Royston
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street address: Victoria House, Old North Road, Royston
Occupation: School
Registration district: Royston
Registration District Number: 135
Sub-registration district: Melbourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 213
Piece: 7567
Household Members:
Name Age
James Paterson 47
Eleanor Mary Paterson 39
Alec F Paterson 20
Charles R Paterson 16
Nellie F Paterson 14
Lilian J Paterson 12
Margery H Paterson 6

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2015 15:24

If they moved to Emsworth, maybe this is Lilian's marriage:

Marriages Sep 1925 (>99%)
Cleverley Ernest R J Paterson Portsmouth 2b 1277
Paterson Lilian J Cleverley Portsmouth 2b 1277


There are two Cleverley / Paterson births, one in Westbourne in 1926, one in East Preston in 1932 - don't know if either of them is relevant.



Lilian Janet Cleverley

in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Lilian Janet Cleverley
Birth Date: 6 Dec 1898
Date of Registration: Mar 1993
Age at Death: 94
Registration district: Chichester
Inferred County: Sussex
Register Number: A34B
District and Subdistrict: 7792A
Entry Number: 211

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2015 15:28

Alexander Paterson
in the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919

Name: Alexander Paterson
Birth Place: Royston, Herts
Residence: Royston, Herts
Death Date: 27 Aug 1916
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Ponders End, Middx.
Rank: SPR.
Regiment: Royal Engineers
Regimental Number: 49140
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: 10Th Field Coy., R.E.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2015 15:30

Robert Charles Paterson
in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Robert Charles Paterson
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Royston
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 519


Charles Patterson
in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: Charles Patterson
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1894
Birth Place: Hertfordshire, England
Enlistment Age: 20
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 2063
Regiment Name: Battn London Regt Battn C of L R Fus
Number of Images: 35
Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation
Other Records: Search for 'Charles Patterson' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Charles Patterson Self (Head)


Born: Royston.
Occupation: Ironmonger, employed by P Gunn Ltd.
Address; 157 (or maybe it's 137 or 187) Liverpool Road N.
Height: 5' 7"

Although the document has his name spelled with two T's, his signature only has one.


????
Charles R Paterson
in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Charles R Paterson
Birth Date: abt 1891
Date of Registration: Mar 1957
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 944

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 May 2015 15:39

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sally_nex&id=I26

(above comes up on google search)

Chris :)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2015 15:48

Nellie Florence A Paterson
in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Nellie Florence A Paterson
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Royston
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 550



Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)
Broomfield Reginald A Paterson Havant 2b 1105
Paterson Nellie F Broomfield Havant 2b 1105



Nellie Florence A Paterson
in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Nellie Florence A Paterson
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Royston
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 550

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 May 2015 15:49

Good find Chris. No point in looking for marriages etc for Herbert's siblings when most of them can be found on your link.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2015 15:52

Margery Hilda Paterson
in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Margery Hilda Paterson
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Royston
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 735



Marriages Dec 1928 (>99%)
Paterson Margery H Whitham Havant 2b 1101
WHITHAM Ralph PATERSON Havant 2b 1101

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 May 2015 15:53

(if relating below?)

Chris :)

Marriages Jun 1916 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bazley Henry L Andrews St. Germans 5c 57
Gill Bertha V G Paterson St.Germans 5c 57


Divorce Court File: 9355. Appellant: Bertha Gladys Vosper Paterson. Respondent: Herbert George Paterson
Date: 1936

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8085501


07 November 1931 - Portsmouth Evening News - Portsmouth, Hampshire

HAVANT POLICE CASES
Wife’s Summons Fails At the Havant Petty Sessions yesterday Herbert George Paterson, formerly coal merchant, of North Street, Havant, successfully resisted a charge of going away from his wife and two children whereby they had to receive assistance from the Public Assistance Committee. Mrs. Paterson told the court that a separation order had been in place since September last. Her husband had made some payments to her, but none over a period of two months, during which she received relief. Defendant stated that after his failure in the coal business he went away to look for work and sent his wife money whenever he could. He also visited his wife frequently. The Bench dismissed the case.


edits (from below link)

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx

PATERSON, ALEC

Rank: Sapper Service No: 49140 Date of Death:27/08/1916 Age: 25 Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers 70th Field Coy. Grave Reference: I. D. 48. Cemetery: FLATIRON COPSE CEMETERY, MAMETZ
Additional Information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. James Paterson, of 24, Queen St., Emsworth, Hants. Born at Royston, Herts.

Gee

Gee Report 31 May 2015 16:11

Parish record from Chris' marriage posting


Name:James Paterson <<Printer

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1863

Age:25

Spouse:Eleanor Mary Sell <<<Address for both: 21 Oak Village

Spouse Age:17

Record Type:Marriage

Event Date:22 Apr 1888

Parish:St John the Baptist, Kentish Town

Borough:Camden

Father Name:
George Paterson Paterson <<<Miller

Spouse Father:
Joseph Sell <<Painter

Register Type:Parish Register


Wit: Joseph & Annie Sell

Gee

Gee Report 31 May 2015 16:14

Possible for James


1881

Name:James Paterson

Age:20

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1861

Relationship:Son (Child)

Father's name:George Paterson

Mother's name:Rebecca Paterson

Gender:Male

Where born:Glasgow

Registration Number:644/7

Registration district:Blythswood

Civil Parish:Glasgow St Mary

County:Lanarkshire

Address:30 King St

Occupation:Printer

ED:4
Household schedule number:31

LINE:12

Roll:cssct1881_230

Household Members:

George Paterson 60
Rebecca Paterson 58
James Paterson 20
Janet Paterson 23



Lorraine

Lorraine Report 31 May 2015 18:04

Wow , only stared today , where did you find all that thank you so much , There is also a jack /john born possibly to Nellie but brought up as a sibling he was possibly born in 1912_1917 in royston or Emsworth thanks Lorraine

Gee

Gee Report 31 May 2015 18:56



Hi Lorraine

These are two popular sites that most of us use


http://home.ancestry.co.uk

http://www.findmypast.co.uk

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 31 May 2015 19:45

Thank you to you all for helping , can anyone find anything on jack paterson born between 1912 and 1917 possible born in Royston but maybe Emsworth which is where he was brought up I believe . Think he was born to Nellie Paterson but brought up as her brother we think . can't find any links to him at all . He could be john jack Paterson thanks Lorraine