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Lorraine
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31 May 2015 15:00 |
I am looking for any information about my grandads relative's. He was Herbert George paterson born in Royston in 1892. Siblings are Alec,Frederick,Nellie,Charles,Margery,Lillian and Jack . They moved to Emsworth after 1st world war I think . thank you Lorraine
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ArgyllGran
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31 May 2015 15:11 |
I'm not readily seeing him on censuses.
Do you mean Royston, Yorkshire, or Royston, Glasgow?
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31 May 2015 15:13 |
Ah, I see it's neither of those, but is in Hertfordshire (or Cambridgeshire.).
Births Sep 1892 (>99%) Paterson Herbert George Royston 3a 518
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31 May 2015 15:13 |
Herbt G Paterson
Age:8
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1893
Relation to Head:Son (Child)
Gender:Male
Father: James Paterson
Mother: Vellie Paterson
Birth Place:Bassingbourn, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish:Royston
Ecclesiastical parish:Royston St John the Baptist
Town:Royston
County/Island:Hertfordshire
Registration district:Royston
Sub-registration district:Melbourn
ED, institution, or vessel:17
Piece:1297
Folio:24
Page Number:3
Household schedule number: 15
Household Members:
Name
Age
James Paterson 40 Vellie Paterson 30 Fredk J Paterson 12 Alec J Paterson 10 Herbt G Paterson 8 Charles R Paterson 6 Nellie F A Paterson 4 Lilian J Paterson 2
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rootgatherer
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31 May 2015 15:14 |
Or Royston, Herts.?
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Chris Ho :)
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31 May 2015 15:14 |
One also Hertfordshire, borders onto Cambs.
Chris :)
(lol, too late!)
1911 (Parents) James Paterson Head Married Male 47 1864 Glasgow Lanark Letter Press Printer Eleanor Mary Paterson Wife Married Female 39 1872 Royston Herts Alec F Paterson Son Single Male 20 1891 Royston Herts Engineers Turner Charles R Paterson Son Single Male 16 1895 Royston Herts Ironmonger Shop Assistant Nellie F Paterson Daughter - Female 14 1897 Royston Herts Shop Assistant Stationer Lilian J Paterson Daughter - Female 12 1899 Royston Herts School Margery H Paterson Daughter - Female 6 1905 Royston Herts School Address Victoria House Old North Road Royston Parish Royston County Hertfordshire Census reference RG14 PN7567 RG78 PN370 RD135 SD3 ED15 SN213
(on image, Married 23yrs, 7 children born, 7 living)
Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------- PATERSON James Pancras 1b 77 Sell Eleanor Mary Pancras 1b 77
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31 May 2015 15:19 |
Lilian Janet Paterson in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Lilian Janet Paterson Registration Year: 1899 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Royston Inferred County: Hertfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 615
Lilian J Paterson
in the 1911 England Census Name: Lilian J Paterson Age in 1911: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Relation to Head: Daughter (Child) Gender: Female Birth Place: Royston, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Royston County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Victoria House, Old North Road, Royston Occupation: School Registration district: Royston Registration District Number: 135 Sub-registration district: Melbourn ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 213 Piece: 7567 Household Members: Name Age James Paterson 47 Eleanor Mary Paterson 39 Alec F Paterson 20 Charles R Paterson 16 Nellie F Paterson 14 Lilian J Paterson 12 Margery H Paterson 6
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31 May 2015 15:24 |
If they moved to Emsworth, maybe this is Lilian's marriage:
Marriages Sep 1925 (>99%) Cleverley Ernest R J Paterson Portsmouth 2b 1277 Paterson Lilian J Cleverley Portsmouth 2b 1277
There are two Cleverley / Paterson births, one in Westbourne in 1926, one in East Preston in 1932 - don't know if either of them is relevant.
Lilian Janet Cleverley
in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Lilian Janet Cleverley Birth Date: 6 Dec 1898 Date of Registration: Mar 1993 Age at Death: 94 Registration district: Chichester Inferred County: Sussex Register Number: A34B District and Subdistrict: 7792A Entry Number: 211
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31 May 2015 15:28 |
Alexander Paterson in the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Name: Alexander Paterson Birth Place: Royston, Herts Residence: Royston, Herts Death Date: 27 Aug 1916 Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Ponders End, Middx. Rank: SPR. Regiment: Royal Engineers Regimental Number: 49140 Type of Casualty: Died of wounds Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Comments: 10Th Field Coy., R.E.
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31 May 2015 15:30 |
Robert Charles Paterson in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Robert Charles Paterson Registration Year: 1894 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Royston Inferred County: Hertfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 519
Charles Patterson in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 Name: Charles Patterson Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1894 Birth Place: Hertfordshire, England Enlistment Age: 20 Document Year: 1914 Regimental Number: 2063 Regiment Name: Battn London Regt Battn C of L R Fus Number of Images: 35 Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation Other Records: Search for 'Charles Patterson' in other WWI collections Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier Charles Patterson Self (Head)
Born: Royston. Occupation: Ironmonger, employed by P Gunn Ltd. Address; 157 (or maybe it's 137 or 187) Liverpool Road N. Height: 5' 7"
Although the document has his name spelled with two T's, his signature only has one.
???? Charles R Paterson in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Charles R Paterson Birth Date: abt 1891 Date of Registration: Mar 1957 Age at Death: 66 Registration district: Islington Inferred County: London Volume: 5c Page: 944
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Chris Ho :)
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31 May 2015 15:39 |
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sally_nex&id=I26
(above comes up on google search)
Chris :)
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31 May 2015 15:48 |
Nellie Florence A Paterson in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Nellie Florence A Paterson Registration Year: 1896 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Royston Inferred County: Hertfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 550
Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%) Broomfield Reginald A Paterson Havant 2b 1105 Paterson Nellie F Broomfield Havant 2b 1105
Nellie Florence A Paterson in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Nellie Florence A Paterson Registration Year: 1896 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Royston Inferred County: Hertfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 550
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31 May 2015 15:49 |
Good find Chris. No point in looking for marriages etc for Herbert's siblings when most of them can be found on your link.
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ArgyllGran
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31 May 2015 15:52 |
Margery Hilda Paterson in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Margery Hilda Paterson Registration Year: 1905 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Royston Inferred County: Hertfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 735
Marriages Dec 1928 (>99%) Paterson Margery H Whitham Havant 2b 1101 WHITHAM Ralph PATERSON Havant 2b 1101
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Chris Ho :)
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31 May 2015 15:53 |
(if relating below?)
Chris :)
Marriages Jun 1916 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------- Bazley Henry L Andrews St. Germans 5c 57 Gill Bertha V G Paterson St.Germans 5c 57
Divorce Court File: 9355. Appellant: Bertha Gladys Vosper Paterson. Respondent: Herbert George Paterson Date: 1936
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8085501
07 November 1931 - Portsmouth Evening News - Portsmouth, Hampshire
HAVANT POLICE CASES Wife’s Summons Fails At the Havant Petty Sessions yesterday Herbert George Paterson, formerly coal merchant, of North Street, Havant, successfully resisted a charge of going away from his wife and two children whereby they had to receive assistance from the Public Assistance Committee. Mrs. Paterson told the court that a separation order had been in place since September last. Her husband had made some payments to her, but none over a period of two months, during which she received relief. Defendant stated that after his failure in the coal business he went away to look for work and sent his wife money whenever he could. He also visited his wife frequently. The Bench dismissed the case.
edits (from below link)
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx
PATERSON, ALEC
Rank: Sapper Service No: 49140 Date of Death:27/08/1916 Age: 25 Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers 70th Field Coy. Grave Reference: I. D. 48. Cemetery: FLATIRON COPSE CEMETERY, MAMETZ Additional Information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. James Paterson, of 24, Queen St., Emsworth, Hants. Born at Royston, Herts.
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31 May 2015 16:11 |
Parish record from Chris' marriage posting
Name:James Paterson <<Printer
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1863
Age:25
Spouse:Eleanor Mary Sell <<<Address for both: 21 Oak Village
Spouse Age:17
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:22 Apr 1888
Parish:St John the Baptist, Kentish Town
Borough:Camden
Father Name: George Paterson Paterson <<<Miller
Spouse Father: Joseph Sell <<Painter
Register Type:Parish Register
Wit: Joseph & Annie Sell
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31 May 2015 16:14 |
Possible for James
1881
Name:James Paterson
Age:20
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1861
Relationship:Son (Child)
Father's name:George Paterson
Mother's name:Rebecca Paterson
Gender:Male
Where born:Glasgow
Registration Number:644/7
Registration district:Blythswood
Civil Parish:Glasgow St Mary
County:Lanarkshire
Address:30 King St
Occupation:Printer
ED:4 Household schedule number:31
LINE:12
Roll:cssct1881_230
Household Members:
George Paterson 60 Rebecca Paterson 58 James Paterson 20 Janet Paterson 23
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Lorraine
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31 May 2015 18:04 |
Wow , only stared today , where did you find all that thank you so much , There is also a jack /john born possibly to Nellie but brought up as a sibling he was possibly born in 1912_1917 in royston or Emsworth thanks Lorraine
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31 May 2015 18:56 |
Hi Lorraine
These are two popular sites that most of us use
http://home.ancestry.co.uk
http://www.findmypast.co.uk
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Lorraine
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31 May 2015 19:45 |
Thank you to you all for helping , can anyone find anything on jack paterson born between 1912 and 1917 possible born in Royston but maybe Emsworth which is where he was brought up I believe . Think he was born to Nellie Paterson but brought up as her brother we think . can't find any links to him at all . He could be john jack Paterson thanks Lorraine
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