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my paternal grandfather was English. The only address I have is on his marriage line and that was the name of the ship he was serving on! The ship was HMS Marlborough. Where do I go from there?

You could start by telling us his name and all the other details you have on him.

Who he married etc and how you have worked your way back to him please.

Please include all the details from that cert, including fathers, occupations, addresses and witnesses.

We can then see if we can help you with this.

Thanks,

Dea x

I've asked Elizabeth to come back with more info

Dates and names would be really useful

As you have the marriage cert, you must know a lot more than you have shared with us so far

Welcome to the Community boards Elizabeth.... :-)

message from Elizabeth

All I can tell you is, Albert Edward Jordan was a Petty Officer Telegraphist on HMS Marlborough at the time of his marriage to my grandmother. They were married in Oban Argyllshire on 22/12/1915.
What I am really hoping for is to get a birth certificate of grandfather. As I am in Scotland I can't as far as I know get an English birth certificate here.

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Name: Albert Edward Jordan
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1921-1941
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: London
Birth Year: 1882

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Name: Albert Edward Jordan
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1918-1921
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Kent
Birth Year: 1882

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Name: Albert Edward Jordan
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1918-1921
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Leicestershire
Birth Year: 1896

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Name: Albert Edward Jordan
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1918-1921
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Lancashire
Birth Year: 1901

hmmm - there are another seven Albert Edward Jordan's!!! - quite a popular combination of names

what was your grandmother's name please? can you respond on here Elizabeth using the "Add reply" box above your heading

English birth certs can be purchased on line from the GRO for £9.25 including worldwide postage

How OLD was he when he married? Was he a bachelor?

Who did he name as his parents?

Scottish certs name both parents of both parties.

Reply ON HERE, please.

Pretty sure this is him - he served on the Marlborough 1915/1916 and was a telegraphist:

UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services
Name: Albert Edward Jordan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 23 Dec 1890
Birth Place: Brighton, Sussex
Service number: 239224
First Service Date: 1 Aug 1907
First Ship Served On: Ganges
Last Service Date: 3 Jan 1924
Last Ship Served On: Queen Elizabeth

EDIT: The image shows he was a milkman before enlisting.

There is no next of kin listed but using 1 credit on Scotland's People gives his wife's name as Catherine Carmichael.

Based on Marie's excellent find............


Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
Jordan Albert Edward Brighton 2b 226

Name: Albert Edward Jordan
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1889
Registration District: Brighton
County: Sussex
Event Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Volume: 2B
Page: 208
Line Number: 162

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
16, Brewer Street, Brighton, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John E Jordan Head Married Male 42 1859 House Painter Hove, Sussex, England Transcription
Sarah Jordan Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Sussex, England Transcription
George H Jordan Son - Male 12 1889 - Brighton, Sussex, England Transcription
James E Jordan Son - Male 11 1890 - Brighton, Sussex, England Transcription
Albert E Jordan Son - Male 10 1891 - Brighton, Sussex, England Transcription
Frank H Jordan Son - Male 7 1894 - Brighton, Sussex, England Transcription
Arthur Bishop Nephew - Male 5 1896 - Brighton, Sussex, England Transcription

Name: Albert Edward Jordan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
County: Sussex
Parish: Hove
Sub-District: Hove
Registration District: Steyning
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birthplace: Brighton, Sussex
Record Type: Household

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
166 Prince Albert Road Portsmouth, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Robert W Jelley Head Married Male 49 1862 Portsmouth Hants Labourer General Transcription
Sarah Anne Jelley Wife Married Female 48 1863 Fareham Hants - Transcription
Alfred Jelley Son Single Male 19 1892 Portsmouth Hants Gardener Domestic Transcription
Ethel May Jelley Daughter - Female 13 1898 Portsmouth Hants School Transcription
Bertram Henry Jelley Son - Male 12 1899 Portsmouth Hants School Transcription
Albert Edward Jordan Visitor Single Male 20 1891 Brighton Sussex Telegraphist Transcription

Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%)

BARNETT Sarah Steyning 2b 454
Jordan John Edward Steyning 2b 454