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Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 5 Jun 2015 11:33

Many thanks everyone you have all been a great help to me. Marie Celeste you have the right name for my grandmother.
I have sent for birth certificate. I hope now I will have proper date of birth as I have him down for a May birth and not December.
Once again thank you all.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 5 Jun 2015 09:26

First name(s) Albert Edward
Last name Jordan
Service number 239224
Birth year 1890
Birth date 23 Dec 1890
Birth place Brighton
Birth county Sussex
Birth country England
Archive reference ADM 188/425/239224
Record set Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1919
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Service Records

Fits with birth reg'n 1st Qtr 1891

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 4 Jun 2015 10:59

another message sent to Elizabeth asking her to return

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 4 Jun 2015 08:52

The one born in 1889 was not a telegraphist.........

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
11 Norton Mews Hove, Hove, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Albert Edward Jordan Head Married Male 21 1890 Brighton Sussex Chaffeur Domestic Transcription
Mabel Lilian Jordan Wife Married Female 20 1891 Brighton Sussex - Transcription
Albert John Jordan Son - Male 0 1911 Brighton Sussex

As per the service record posted by Marie and the 1911 posted on page one, the birth in 1891 fits the criteria for the correct man

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Jun 2015 15:36

I've asked Elizabeth to return with some feedback

mgnv

mgnv Report 3 Jun 2015 14:41

All this speculation could be focused on the right guy if Elizabeth would only return and say who his parents are on his marr cert - something that should have been in the original post.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Jun 2015 14:18

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Name: William Henry Jordan
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1885
Registration District: Brighton
County: Sussex
Event Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Volume: 2B
Page: 371
Line Number: 262


William Henry Jordan probably married one of the following people
Name: Beatrice Parker

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Jun 2015 14:15

Name: Albert E Jordan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
County: Sussex
Civil Parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical Parish: Brighton St Martin
Sub-District: West Brighton
Registration District: Brighton
Gender: Male
Age: 10
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Brighton, Sussex
Schedule Type: Household

Dea

Dea Report 3 Jun 2015 14:10

Be careful! - There are 2 'possibles' on 1901 - this is the other one!


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
56, Islingword Place, Brighton, Sussex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry W Jordan Head Married Male 34 1867 Carpenter Brighton, Sussex, England

Beatrice Jordan Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Brighton, Sussex, England

Albert E Jordan Son Single Male 11 1890 - Brighton, Sussex, England

George H Jordan Son Single Male 1 1900 - Brighton, Sussex, England

Dea x

EDIT - Birth refs for both!

From MC's info above, the second one should be him - you can order the cert from GRO on-line.

Births Sep 1889 (>99%)
Jordan Albert Edward Brighton 2b 208

Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
Jordan Albert Edward Brighton 2b 226

Dea x

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Jun 2015 14:06


Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%)

BARNETT Sarah Steyning 2b 454
Jordan John Edward Steyning 2b 454

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Jun 2015 14:04

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
166 Prince Albert Road Portsmouth, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Robert W Jelley Head Married Male 49 1862 Portsmouth Hants Labourer General Transcription
Sarah Anne Jelley Wife Married Female 48 1863 Fareham Hants - Transcription
Alfred Jelley Son Single Male 19 1892 Portsmouth Hants Gardener Domestic Transcription
Ethel May Jelley Daughter - Female 13 1898 Portsmouth Hants School Transcription
Bertram Henry Jelley Son - Male 12 1899 Portsmouth Hants School Transcription
Albert Edward Jordan Visitor Single Male 20 1891 Brighton Sussex Telegraphist Transcription

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Jun 2015 14:03

Name: Albert Edward Jordan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
County: Sussex
Parish: Hove
Sub-District: Hove
Registration District: Steyning
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birthplace: Brighton, Sussex
Record Type: Household

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Jun 2015 14:03

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
16, Brewer Street, Brighton, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John E Jordan Head Married Male 42 1859 House Painter Hove, Sussex, England Transcription
Sarah Jordan Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Sussex, England Transcription
George H Jordan Son - Male 12 1889 - Brighton, Sussex, England Transcription
James E Jordan Son - Male 11 1890 - Brighton, Sussex, England Transcription
Albert E Jordan Son - Male 10 1891 - Brighton, Sussex, England Transcription
Frank H Jordan Son - Male 7 1894 - Brighton, Sussex, England Transcription
Arthur Bishop Nephew - Male 5 1896 - Brighton, Sussex, England Transcription

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Jun 2015 14:02

Name: Albert Edward Jordan
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1889
Registration District: Brighton
County: Sussex
Event Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Volume: 2B
Page: 208
Line Number: 162

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Jun 2015 14:01



Based on Marie's excellent find............


Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
Jordan Albert Edward Brighton 2b 226

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jun 2015 13:57

Pretty sure this is him - he served on the Marlborough 1915/1916 and was a telegraphist:

UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services
Name: Albert Edward Jordan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 23 Dec 1890
Birth Place: Brighton, Sussex
Service number: 239224
First Service Date: 1 Aug 1907
First Ship Served On: Ganges
Last Service Date: 3 Jan 1924
Last Ship Served On: Queen Elizabeth

EDIT: The image shows he was a milkman before enlisting.

There is no next of kin listed but using 1 credit on Scotland's People gives his wife's name as Catherine Carmichael.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Jun 2015 13:49

English birth certs can be purchased on line from the GRO for £9.25 including worldwide postage

How OLD was he when he married? Was he a bachelor?

Who did he name as his parents?

Scottish certs name both parents of both parties.

Reply ON HERE, please.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Jun 2015 13:44

what was your grandmother's name please? can you respond on here Elizabeth using the "Add reply" box above your heading

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Jun 2015 13:41

hmmm - there are another seven Albert Edward Jordan's!!! - quite a popular combination of names

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Jun 2015 13:40

??????????

Name: Albert Edward Jordan
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1918-1921
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Lancashire
Birth Year: 1901