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Thanks Jacqueline. I'll see if he wants to take up that option.

Much appreciated.

To go any further back with the mother's line, the 1916 birth cert will be needed

First name(s) CYRIL
Last name MEAD
Gender Male
Birth day 10
Birth month 6
Birth year 1924
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1981
District CHICHESTER
County Sussex
Volume 18
Page 1762

Births Sep 1924 (>99%)
Mead Cyril Noble Whitby 9d 764

May have been posted already, but................

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
14 High Row Loftus, Loftus, Yorkshire, England


Birth Place First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation
Yorkshire Sleights George Mead Head Married Male 49 1862 Deputy Ironstone Mines Transcription
Yorkshire Staithes Annie Mead Wife Married Female 50 1861 - Transcription
Yorkshire Iburondale Eleanor Laverick Mead Daughter Single Female 19 1892 - Transcription
Yorkshire Loftus George William Mead Son Single Male 17 1894 Horse Driver Ironstone Mines Transcription***********
Yorkshire Loftus Sarah Jane Hall Mead Daughter - Female 13 1898 School Transcription
Yorkshire Loftus Hilda Mead Daughter - Female 11 1900 School Transcription
Yorkshire Loftus Mary Elizabeth Mead Daughter - Female 8 1903 - Transcription
Yorkshire Loftus Dorothy Laverick Mead Daughter - Female 6 1905 - Transcription
Yorkshire Sleights Arthur George Sayers Sedman Boarder Single Male 19 1892 Horse-Driver Ironstone Mines Transcription
Yorkshire Loftus James Alfred Mead Grandson - Male 0 1911 - Transcription

So glad you're on track :)

I know Mike, and I should have known better but when someone says their family name is Mead you automatically assume it to be their natural child or they would tell you otherwise. Or not, as in this case.

Thank you for all you help in this though.

Richmond isn't exactly far away!

Perhaps the Meads lived in Loftus, and she just said she 'came from' there

If the Alderson birth is correct
she wasn't " born in the Loftus area of Yorkshire/Cleveland " then after all.

Be wary of what family members think they know !

Too many potential mothers in 1911 to be able to pinpoint a likely one

That would seem the case wouldnt it Jacqueline? A single mother. Glad there were some decent people about. :-)

She married as Alderson.............

Could this be why the Meads 'took her in'?

Too early for formal adoption, of course


Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Alderson Amy Alderson Richmond Y. 9d 1228

Youre not wrong there Jacqueline!

It would suggest then that Amy was in fact called Alderson, and maybe she registered one of girls birth whereas maybe her husband did the other two and automatically said Mead because he'd always known her as Mead.

Thanks to all you guys for your help and patience, I really do appreciate it.

I think the tree just withered....................

Jennifer's (born 1950) MMN was ALDERSON.....................

No other birth with the same MMN

Seems you've opened a real can of worms

Christine's birth has MMN Mead

And the ones who married in 1906..............I'd hoped that Albert would have been with the other woman on the page. No such luck

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Headland Pelynt, Pelynt, Cornwall, England

Birth Place First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation
Cornwall Water Gate Talland Albert Hambly Head Married Male 32 1879 Farmer Transcription
Cornwall St Cleer Lucy Hambly Wife Married Female 28 1883 - Transcription
Cornwall Headland Pelynt Lilian Maud Hambly Daughter Singel Female 4 1907

Okay, curioser and curioser.

Friend just got back to me. Sheila has two sisters, Jennifer and Christine.

After all the searching he has told me that Amy was 'taken in' by the Meads and was never formally adopted so I think I can kiss that one goodbye. Honestly, some people think we can work miracles or are mindreaders.

Amy did have a 'brother' (natural son of the Meads) called Cyril who died about 30 years ago.

Edit: Strangley, when looking at Sheila & Christines births they both have the mothers maiden name of Mead but Jennifers mothers m/n says Alderson. That was actually picked up on by one of the posters earlier wasnt it?

The couple who married in 1908

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Greenhead, Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England

Birth Place First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation
Plynt Cornwall Edwin Hambly Head Married Male 29 1882 Farm Labourer Transcription
Menheniot Cornwall Mary Ann Hambly Wife Married Female 26 1885 - Transcription
Linkinhorne Cornwall William Edwin Hambly Son Single Male 1 1910 - Transcription
Census details

Oh dear, they are a problem, aren't they?

Two (possibly) Hambly/Johns marriages in Liskeard.



Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%)

Ball Edwin John Liskeard 5c 105
Hambly Albert Liskeard 5c 105
Johns Lucy Liskeard 5c 105
Snowden Edith Ethel Liskeard 5c




Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
HAMBLY Edwin Liskeard 5c 97
JOHNS Mary Ann R Liskeard 5c 97


Several births in Liskeard, and only one in St Austell


Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
HAMBLY Ethel L Johns Liskeard 5c 105


Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Hambly Mary L M Johns Liskeard 5c 72

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Hambly Arthur C Johns St.Austell 5c 167

Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
Hambly George H Johns Liskeard 5c 63
Hambly Georgine E Johns Liskeard 5c 63


Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
Hambly Florence A Johns Liskeard 5c 73

Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
Hambly Bertram R Johns Liskeard 5c 70

The one born with MMN Semmens was born too soon to be the man who died in 1978