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Many thanks mgnv. Very interesting. I rather suspect she had developed Dementia if an Asylum was the best emergency placement.

The asylum was in West Ham RD in 1893 - it was a good 200m outside of the Chigwell subdistrict of Epping RD, but, by the time Lizzie's 90, it was in Redbridge RD. The buildings were redeveloped, but the grounds are now a park.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2710434 - the caption has 2 links.
The first points to http://www.wildessex.net/sites/Claybury%20Park.htm
The second is too long to post, but it, in turn, has links to a map of the park and to a brochure.

My guess at the location of the main building is OS coords 543350,191450 (or TQ 43350 91450 in the newer landranger coords)

Its amazing how our memory lets us down - both my contemporay and I thought she died earlier than 1971

Hope the GRO/Microsoft sorts itself out soon for you

Gritty

I think that's a Microsoft error

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/311766

Great stuff! :-D

Although I've just been on the GRO trying to order certificates, but keep getting 500 - Internal server error message when clicking on the 'Order a certificate online now" - darned annoying. Hope it clears soon.

She was a grand age!

Glad you found her

Got her!!

Probate calendar entry
ALLEN Elizabeth of (known address) London N18 died 23 June 1971

Thank you soo much everyone

:-D :-D :-D

its the redbridge death

"Claybury Asylum, Woodford Green". TheTimeChamber. TheTimeChamber. Retrieved 6 December 2011.
Coordinates: 51.6031°N 0.0687°E
Categories: Hospital buildings completed in 1893Former buildings and structures in RedbridgeDefunct hospitals in LondonHealth in RedbridgeFormer psychiatric hospitals in EnglandHospitals established in 1893NHS hospitals in London

Yes Yvonne, it does seem to add up.

Thank you Gins - the probate deffinately rules out the 1963 Romford one

This could be the other death you posted



Name:Elizabeth Allen of: Allendale Church Land, Doddinghurst

Probate Date:18 Sep 1964

Death Date:10 Jul 1964

Death Place:Essex, England

Registry:London, England

Probate to: Leonard Arthur Allen

thats her birth sittingbourne kent

this is her birth milton is now sittingbourne

Births Mar 1876 (>99%)
ALLEN Elizabeth Milton 2a 846

note the birth date month
and the death date

Det

This looks like the 1963 Romford lady



Name:Elizabeth Allen of: 79 Bush Elm Rd

Probate Date:5 Jun 1963

Death Date:17 Apr 1963 Rush Green Hospital, Romford

Death Place:Essex, England

Registry:London, England

Admin to: Horace Edmund Allen

this must be her death claybury is in the redbridge area


Elizabeth Allen
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name: Elizabeth Allen
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1971
Registration District: Redbridge
County: Essex
Event Place: Redbridge, Essex, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969): 19 Jan 1876
Volume: 5D
Page: 1561
Line Number: 41

Yes - that's correct Yvonne.

Although I've never found a baptism, all the census are known. It was primarily the death we were looking for.

Thank you for your interest

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Elizabeth Allen
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name: Elizabeth Allen
Age (Original): 5
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1876
Birthplace: Sittingbourne, Kent, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Scholar
Address: Linton Cottage 40 Church Road
Event Place: Edmonton, Middlesex, England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 1388 / 101
Page Number: 20
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
George Allen Head M 28 Sittingbourne, Kent, England
Elizabeth Allen Wife F 29 Bruton, Somerset, England
James Allen Son M 6 Sittingbourne, Kent, England
Elizabeth Allen Daughter F 5 Sittingbourne, Kent, England
Alice Allen Daughter F 3 Stratford, Essex, England
Rosetta Allen Daughter F 1 Edmonton, Middlesex, England
James Usher Lodger M 20 Gillegum, Dorset, England
Henry Hughes Lodger M 19 Sittingbourne, Kent, England

this is her birth milton is now sittingbourne

Births Mar 1876 (>99%)
ALLEN Elizabeth Milton 2a 846

Probably Londonbelle.

In the unlikely event that the elderly relative can remember when her birthday was, that might help tell if it was the Redbridge one

Birth?

Sittingborne is in the Registration District of Milton

Births Mar 1876
ALLEN Elizabeth Milton 2a 846

:-S Which one do I send for? :-S

The only 'checking point' I can think of is the surname of the informant and their address.

Snap Londonbelle!

:-D