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Hi
For everyone who reads this and has helped me, have you tried this website for 19th Century news? It covers Belfast.

This is how my IT chap saved it so I don't have a shorter version, sorry!

Just copy and paste, it will work. You will need a current library card to use it though.

http://find.galegroup.com/bncn/retrieve.do?subjectParam=Locale%2528en%252C%252C%2529%253AFQE%253D%2528ba%252CNone%252C6%2529%25221ZTQ%2522%253AAnd%253AFQE%253D%2528da%252CNone%252C10%2529%252218691211%2522%2524&sort=DateAscend&tabID=T012&sgCurrentPosition=0&pageNumber=&subjectAction=DISPLAY_SUBJECTS&prodId=BNCN&retrieveFormat=MULTIPAGE_DOCUMENT&searchId=R3&docId=BC3206087882&orientation=¤tPosition=22&userGroupName=hamlib&docLevel=FASCIMILE&resultListType=RESULT_LIST&qrySerId=Locale%28en%2C%2C%29%3AFQE%3D%28ba%2CNone%2C6%29%221ZTQ%22%3AAnd%3AFQE%3D%28da%2CNone%2C10%29%2218691211%22%24&sgHitCountType=None&inPS=true&pageIndex=0&searchType=AdvancedSearchForm&scale=0.33¤tPosition=22&workId=&relevancePageBatch=BC3206087882&contentSet=LTO&callistoContentSet=BNCN&resultListType=RESULT_LIST&reformatPage=N&docPage=article&retrieveFormat=MULTIPAGE_DOCUMENT&newScale=0.50&docPage=article&enlarge=&recNum=&newOrientation=0

Using Groni for DOB and Ancestry for full first name
Here are the other births of children born to Solomom Thomson and Anna Kirker:
All registered in Banbridge

William John Thomson b 30 Aug 1890
Sarah Jane Thomson b 22 Mar 1892
Anna Thomson b 22 May 1894
David Thomson b 22 Aug 1895
Stanley Thomson b 30 Oct 1896
Samuel Alexander Thomson b 2 Apr 1899
Robert Raymond Thomson b 24 May 1902

Thank you once again for your help and time. I feel guilty allowing everyone to run around after me, but I must say I am quite enjoying it. Seriously, thank you as I am not familiar with researching NI.

Kind regards

Dee

The FS pilot site was replaced by their currant site - the British stuff is at:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

The BMD index there only covers NI up to partition - upon partition, a copy of all NI BMDs was made and sent to Belfast, so NI BMDs up to 1922 can be bought from both Irelands, but only thru GRONI post 1922. BMDs from both Irelands can be bought in a cheaper form as uncerrtified images, as older ones can in Scotland These are good for genealogical purposes, but not for legal purposes (like getting a passport).

http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Apply-for-Certificates.aspx

http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/information-and-services/leisure-home-and-community/family-history-heritage-and-museums/research-family-history-at-the-general-register-office-ni-groni.htm

I have also searched with every permutation of Christian and Surnames plus Initials only...she has to be somewhere !!
I don't have access to the UK Census to check if she was over there....

Dee,
I can't identify Elizabeth/Lizzie on any 1911 census return either.

There is a public tree on Ancestry
The tree owner appears to be a descendant of the Kirker family (from a brother of Anna Kirker)
There are many documents attached incliding the marriage of Anna Kirker and Solomon Thompson who married in Scarva Presbyterian Church, Banbridge on 2 Jul 1888
Anna's parents: Alexander Kirker and Eliza Matier
Solomon's parents: Samuel Thompson

Sadly, the tree does not hold any additional info on Elizabeth M Thompson and David Kelly other than what you already know.

Thank you once again, really appreciate the help. I'm trying to understand how to work the website as I think I've been doing it wrong.

Sadly still no Elizabeth on 1911, she married the following year.

All the relatives are long gone Gins.

Kind regards

Dee

GlasgowLass

No apology needed, I just wondered if the info you PM'd was something about a living relative and I was missing something

:-)

For Ref: 1901
Residents of a house 2 in Doughery (Banbridge Rural, Down)
Thomson Lizzie M 12 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Thomson Sarah J 9 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Thomson Anna 6 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Thomson Soloman 43 Male Head of Family Presbyterian
Thomson Stanley 4 Male Son Presbyterian
Thomson Samuel A 2 Male Son Presbyterian
Thomson William J 10 Male Son Presbyterian
Thomson David 5 Male Son Presbyterian
Thomson Anna 38 Female Wife Presbyterian

her family 1911
Residents of a house 1 in Doughery (Banbridge Rural, Down)
Thomson Solomon 54 Male Head of Family Presbyterian
Thomson Anna 48 Female Wife Presbyterian
Thomson William J 20 Male Son Presbyterian
Thomson Sarah J 19 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Thomson Anna 16 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Thomson David 15 Male Son Presbyterian
Thomson Stanley 14 Male Son Presbyterian
Thomson Samuel A 12 Male Son Presbyterian
Thomson Robert R 8 Male Son Presbyterian
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Hi

Am I being cheeky here, after all the work that has been done on my behalf?
I cannot find Elizabeth Thomson (Lizzie) in 1911 census.

Can anyone spot her please?

Kind regards
Dee

Hi Gins,
I've only just seen your post from 12/6 asking me why I pm'd the info.

I was replying to a PM that I received from the poster and realised that the info that I found, also belonged on the thread.

Apologies as I can see how it came across as a bit off.!
Xxx

Hi

Thank you so much everyone who has given me plenty to go on. I really appreciate your assistance and time.

Sorry I haven't replied before but I can only access all this in the office as my home computer is suffering from exhaustion.

Thank you, all of you for being so kind.

Kind regards

Dee

Hope its not what I am after posting or poor Dee will have more info. than enough ....


Probate of the Will of Solomon Thomson late of Doughery, Co. Down, Farmer, who died 13 September 1920 granted at Belfast 31 August 1921 to George Thomson and David Gordon, Farmers. Effects: £284 0s 0d

Hi Glas

Ive already Pm'd Dee with some additional info

Am I missing something? Not sure why you PM the details?

Miss Eleanor Jane GAW . Newtownards wife of Samuel Carson Kelly; mother of Robert b. 1868 & Allen b. 1870 & John Samuel Mackintosh Kelley b. 1872

Samuel Carson KELL(E) Y . Newtownards husband of Eleanor Jane Gaw; father of Robert Gaw Kelly b. 11 Aug 1868 & Allen Carson Kelly b. 6 Oct 1870 & John Samuel Mackintosh Kelley b. 14 Dec 1872 ; a Town Commissioner in Newtownards;

Ive already Pm'd Dee with some additional info.

Elizabeth Mateer Thomson b 9 Oct 1888 Banbridge. Mother's name shows as Kirker

Anna Kirker married Solomon Thomson on 2 Jul 1888 in Banbridge

Link to both 1901 and 1911 Banbridge censuses for this family also provided.
(The eldest child also shows as Lizzie M Thomson and corresponds with the 1888 birth)

I don't know how much info.Dee already has but there is plenty to connect the dots relating to the Kelly's on the Cenus 1901/11

Following Erin


Name:Robert Gaw Kelly

Gender:Male

Birth Date:11 Aug 1868

Birth Place:Newtownards, Down, Ireland

Baptism Place:Newtownards, Down, Ireland

Father's name:Samuel Carson Kelly

Mother's name:Eleanor Jane Gaw

Just for interest...

20 Francis Street Little (Newtownards Urban)

Beckett Robert John 42 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Newtownards.Commercial Clark in Spinning Mill. Read and write - Married - 2 2 1
Beckett Elizabeth Ellen 33 Female Wife Church of Ireland Co Wexford - Read and write - Married -
Beckett John Douglas 1 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Down,

1911 Census....

Residents of a house 9 in Regent Street (Newtownards Urban, Down)

Kelly Robert Gaw 42 Male Head of Family Brethren Co Down Grocer Married - 13 9 6
Kelly Margaret Ann 39 Female Wife Brethren -
Kelly Eleanor Jam Geo 12 Female Daughter Brethren - - - - - -
Kelly Samuel Carson 11 Male Son Brethren - - - - - -
Kelly Robert Wallace 7 Male Son Brethren - - - - - -
Kelly John Wright 5 Male Son Brethren Scholar Read and write - - - - - -
Kelly Mary Frances 3 Female Daughter Brethren
Kelly David Martin Bell 1 Male Son Brethren Co Down -
McMillar Maggie Bell 21 Female Servant Presbyterian Co Down Nurse Domestic Servant Read and write - Single - - - -
Keenon Maggie Eller 18 Female Servant Presbyterian