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Hi Margee. His age in 1861/71 etc stays fairly correct if he was 19 in 1861 but. Confusing.

Joan

Hi alvigal as you say a strange one. I have looked for any Happel/Hepple marriage and can find none that fit also Happel to Macarthy. Very frustrating!!

Joan

Many thanks Greyghost I found this Mary and looked for a marriage and couldn't find one for any Happel variation or a marriage to a Macarthy.
Joan

This is a srtange one. And why is his mother Mary Macarthy and not Hepple? Can't find a marriage there either. :-S :-S :-S

If his age on the censuses is correct he was only 16 or 17 when he married not 21.

?? Am wondering about this for Mary in 1851. Modbury and Kingsbridge (1851 census pob) are only 8 miles from each other and if she was born at a village somewhere in-between.....

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4, Hopford Place, Stoke Demerel, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Jane Tape Peeke Head Widow Female 46 1805 - Devonport, Devon, England
S Jane Richards Peeke Daughter Unmarried Female 21 1830 - Tamerton Foliot, Devon, England
John Peeke Son - Male 16 1835 Scholar Tamerton Foliot, Devon, England
Mary Heppel Servant Married Female 43 1808 House Servant Modbury, Devon, England

Thanks Ann I can't find George before 1859 date of his marriage.

Joan

Name: George Happle
Age (Original): 39
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1842
Birthplace: Devonport, Devon, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer H M Dockyard
Address: 8 Wilton Street
Event Place: Devonport Stoke-Damerel, Devonshire, England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2212 / 22
Page Number: 48

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
George Happle Head M 39 Devonport, Devon, England
Selina Happle Wife F 40 Tavistock, Devon, England
Frederick W Happle Son M 20 Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Maria M Happle Daughter F 17 Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Walter J Happle Son M 14 Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
William H Happle Son M 12 Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Joseph Happle Son M 10 Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Laura S Happle Daughter F 7 Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Alfred C Happle Son M 5 Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Albert T Happle Son M 2 Stoke Damerel, Devon, England

GS Film number: 1341533

Name: George Hepple
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: Stoke Damerel, Devonshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Stoke Damerel
Sub-District: Stoke
Parish: Stoke Damerel
County: Devonshire

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
George Hepple Self M 29 Stoke Damerel, Devonshire
Selina Hepple Wife F 30 Whitechurch
Fred Hepple Son M 10 Stoke Damerel, Devonshire
George Hepple Son M 9 Stoke Damerel, Devonshire
Mary Hepple Daughter F 7 Stoke Damerel, Devonshire
Walter Hepple Son M 4 Stoke Damerel, Devonshire
William Hepple Son M 2 Stoke Damerel, Devonshire
Joseph Hepple Son M 0 Stoke Damerel, Devonshire

Name: George Happel
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1859
Registration District: Stoke Damerel
County: Devon
Event Place: Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Volume: 5B
Page: 594
Line Number: 34


George Happel probably married one of the following people
Name: Selina Chubb

HI, I am trying to find any records of George before his marriage in 1859 any help much appreciated.

What I have on George he married Selina Chubb 4th Sept 1859 at Stoke Dameral Devon registry office his age 21 he was labourer in HMS dockyard his father
Henry Happel deceased a boatwains mate RN

1861 Census
98 Paradise Place Stoke Dameral
George Heppel head 19 lab in dockyard born Devonport
Selina wife 20 born Whitchurch
Frederick William son 8 months born Stoke Dameral
Mary Macarthy mother 51 widow born Kingsbridge Devon
George is in subsequent census` as Hepple Happle there is a possible death in 1908 Plymouth
This is all I can find I`ve looked for Mary Macarthy and Henry Happel but no joy on either
Any help or suggestions most welcome.

many thanks Joan