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Gerry

Gerry Report 3 Jul 2015 23:45

This is what I know.

Alice Mary Gertrude Hexter married Joseph George Horrocks 7/4/1894 in India. Alice was born 1868 and Joseph 1869.

Joseph was conducting a "survey of India". His father was, according to the marriage record, J G Horrocks. NOTE no mention of the surname Murphy!! Joseph died 1926 in India

Alice's father was W Hexter and was a witness. The other witness was A Garnett-Kemp.

Name: Joseph George Harrocks Murphy
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1869
Marriage Date: 7 Apr 1894
Marriage Place: Naini Tal, Bengal, India
Father: J.G. Harrocks
Spouse: Alice Mary Gertrude Hexter

I can find nothing else other than the marriage and Joseph's death.

Gerry :-)

Gerry

Gerry Report 4 Jul 2015 00:06

I have just found a likely brother of Alice

Name: Alfred James Hexter
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1863
Birth Place: Nynee Tal, Bengal, India
Baptism Date: 5 May 1863
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: Nynee Tal, Bengal, India
Father: William Hexter
Mother: Mary

Died 9/9/1863

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 00:26

This might be the marriage for a sister of Alice

Name: Herald C. Pollock
Birth Date: 1868
Age: 23
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Hexter<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's Birth Date: 1865<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's Age: 26
Event Date: 12 Sep 1891
Event Place: Naini Tal, Bengal, India
Father's Name: James Pollock
Spouse's Father's Name: William Hexter<<<<<<<<<<
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M39355-1 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number:

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 00:28

This might be the death for Mary, the mother of Alfred James Hexter:

Name: Mary Hexter
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 01 Nov 1913
Burial Place: Naini Tal, Bengal, India
Death Date: 31 Oct 1913
Age: 83
Birth Date: 1830
Marital Status: Widowed
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B75045-4 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number: 527902

EDIT:Mary died of Bronchitis.

Gerry

Gerry Report 4 Jul 2015 00:29

Thank you Kucinta.

I have just found her (Elizabeth) birth

First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Hexter
Baptism year 1864
Birth year 1864
Place Bareilly
Presidency Bengal
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Hexter
Baptism date 7 Jan 1865
Birth date 12 Dec 1864

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 00:31

Looks like Elizabeth married again:

Name: Nolan Bedford
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Pollock<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Event Date: 19 Apr 1904
Event Place: Fort William, Bengal, India
Father's Name: Charles William Bedford
Spouse's Father's Name: William Hexter<<<<<<<<<<<
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Marital Status: Divorced<<<<<<<<<<<
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M75038-7 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number: 527523

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 00:36

Death of William, which precedes the death of widowed Mary Hexter I posted earlier:

First name(s) William
Last name Hexter
Birth year 1822
Death date 19 Dec 1894
Death year 1894
Age 72Y 5M
Burial date 20 Dec 1894
Place Naini Tal
Presidency Bengal
Archive Reference N-1-242
Folio -
Page 109
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Record set British India Office deaths & burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Image says he was a pensioner, and bailiff of the High Court, he died of apoplexy

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 00:41

Mary's will, which mentions Alice. I'll pm you the images:

First name(s) Mary
Last name Hexter
Event year 1914
Presidency Bengal
Death year -
Place -
Record type Will & Testament
Archive reference L-AG-34-29-159
Page/folio number 1
Catalogue description Wills - Bengal 1780-1938
Record set British India Office wills & probate
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Wills & probate

Gerry

Gerry Report 4 Jul 2015 00:45

Excellent Kucinta. Thank you so much

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 00:52

You said you had Joseph's death, so you probably know alreay he died of uramic coma, and was described as a retired deputy director of survey:

First name(s) Joseph Horrocks
Last name Murphy
Birth year 1869
Death date 09 Sep 1926
Death year 1926
Age 57
Burial date 10 Sep 1926
Place Mussoorie
Presidency Bengal
Archive Reference N-1-495
Folio -
Page 278
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Record set British India Office deaths & burials

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 00:55

Children taken from familysearch as easier to use parents names to narrow down the search:

Name: Queenie Winifred Cecilia Hoorocks-Murphy
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 19 Jul 1895
Christening Place: Naini Tal, Bengal, India
Birth Date: 19 Jul 1895
Birthplace: India
Father's Name: Joseph George Hoorocks-Murphy
Mother's Name: Alice Mary Gertrude
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C39359-8 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number: 512355

Name: Melville Bernard Horrocks-Murphy
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 27 Oct 1906
Christening Place: Dinapore, Bengal, India
Birth Date: 05 Oct 1906
Birthplace: Dinapore, Bengal, India
Father's Name: Joseph Horrocks-Murphy
Mother's Name: Alice
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C75040-4 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number: 527538 , Reference ID: 527538

Name: Kathleen Avis Murphy
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 13 Dec 1898
Christening Place: Gorakhpur, Bengal, India
Birth Date: 06 Dec 1898
Birthplace: Bengal, India
Father's Name: Joseph Murphy
Mother's Name: Alice
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C39364-9 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number: 512371

Images of baptisms on FMP have 'survey' as occupation for father on Kathleen's baptism,

Gerry

Gerry Report 4 Jul 2015 00:58

No, I didn't know what he died of. I have just looked it up - it sounds awful!!

We have a huge thunderstorm overhead so I am going to disconnect. Thank you for all your help

Gerry :-D

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 01:01

Marriage for Queenie:

First name(s) Q W Cecilia
Last name Horrocks-Murphy
Marriage year 1914
Marriage date 31 Aug 1914
Spouse's first name John Gurney
Spouse's last name Wakefield
Place ,St Thomas
Presidency Bengal
Groom's age 31
Bride's age 19
Groom's father's first name G E C
Groom's father's last name Wakefield
Bride's father's first name J
Bride's father's last name Horrocks-Murphy
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Archive reference N-1-399
Folio number 8
Entry number -
Record set British India Office marriages

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 01:14

???


First name(s) NEVILLE BARNEY
Last name HORROCKS-MURPHY
Gender Male
Birth day 5
Birth month 10
Birth year 1906<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1984
District HAVERING
Register number 284
County Essex
Volume 13
Page 353
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials

Not sure whether 'Neville Barney' is the 'Melville Bernard' from the family search baptism. He seems to have married in India:

First name(s) Neville Barney
Last name Horrocks-Murphy
Marriage year 1945
Marriage date 1945
Spouse's first name Mabel Margaret
Spouse's last name Bede
Place Lahore
Presidency Bengal
Groom's age 39
Bride's age 35
Groom's father's first name -
Groom's father's last name -
Bride's father's first name -
Bride's father's last name -
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Archive reference N-1-626
Folio number 185
Entry number -
Record set British India Office marriages

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 01:25

Wondering if this is the marriage of a fourth child of Joseph and Alice:

First name(s) Patrick Norman<<<<<<<<<
Last name Horrocks Murphy<<<<<<<<<<<<
Marriage year 1941
Marriage date 1941
Spouse's first name Kathleen Muriel Phyllis
Spouse's last name Rogers
Place Calcutta
Presidency Bengal
Groom's age 40
Bride's age 33
Groom's father's first name -
Groom's father's last name -
Bride's father's first name -
Bride's father's last name -
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Archive reference N-1-612
Folio number 150
Entry number -
Record set British India Office marriages

and death:

Name: Patrick N Horrocks-murphy
Birth Date: abt 1901
Date of Registration: Sep 1968
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Surrey North Western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 234


death of wife:

Name: Kathleen M P H Murphy
Birth Date: abt 1908
Date of Registration: Sep 1961
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Surrey South Western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 773

Her burial:

Name: Kathleen Muriel Phyllis Horrocks-Murphy
Birth Year: abt 1908
Burial Age: 53
Burial Date: 18 Jul 1961
Archive Provided Parish: Camberley, St Michael
Parish as it Appears: Yorktown
Reference Number: CAMM/4/7

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 01:33

Wondering about this lady:

Name: Cynthia Esme Horrocks-murphy
Birth Date: 11 Nov 1919
Date of Registration: Jan 2003
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Redbridge
Inferred County: Essex
Register Number: A63
District and Subdistrict: 247/1A
Entry Number: 42

Have found her on a passenger list:

Name: Cynthia Horrocks Murphy
Birth Date: abt 1920
Age: 33
Port of Departure: Hong Kong, China
Arrival Date: 4 Aug 1953
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Carthage
Search Ship Database: Search for the Carthage in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 162658

She was travelling with a Neville Horrocks-Murphy aged 46, a tea planter, and a 2 yr old Neville Horrocks-Murphy, and they were heading for 11, Granville Rd, Ilford, Essex.

An outward list has the same trio:

Name: Cynthia Esme Horrocks-Murphy
Gender: Female
Age: 32
Birth Date: abt 1920
Departure Date: 14 Feb 1952
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Bombay, India
Ship Name: Strathaird
Search Ship Database: Search for the Strathaird in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: P and O
Official Number: 162670
Master: H S Allan

Neville sr is Neville Barney, Neville Jr is Neville Dale.No idea what happened to the Mabel Margaret that neville Barney married in 1945....

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 01:43

I think this might be Kathleen Avis, going by Avis:

Name: Avis Horrocks Murphy
Birth Date: abt 1899
Age: 35
Port of Departure: Calcutta, India
Arrival Date: 27 Jul 1934
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Domala
Search Ship Database: Search for the Domala in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: British India Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 146266

She is a nurse, and her address is c/o Lloyds Bank, Threadneedle st London.

I think this is her death, as Avis K(athleen) H(orrocks) Murphy:

Name: Avis K H Murphy
Birth Date: abt 1898
Date of Registration: Dec 1968
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: New Forest
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 410

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 01:59

Looks like Alice's brother Alfred James died as an infant:

First name(s) Alfred James
Last name Hexter
Birth year 1863
Death date 09 Sep 1863
Death year 1863
Age 4M
Burial date 10 Sep 1863
Place Naini Tal
Presidency Bengal
Archive Reference N-1-105
Folio -
Page 146
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Record set British India Office deaths & burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

He is described as the son of Corpl Hexter of the Rifle Brigade, and died of bronchitis.

EDIT: I went and looked at the images on FMP for Elizabeth's baptism, and her father is also recorded as a Corpl Rifle Brigade. Elizabeth's first husband Hector Pollock was a Police Inspector. Her second husband Nolan Bedford was a 'survey of India'

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Jul 2015 14:01

Having just looked through the will for Mary,that I sent you, looks like Alice was her third daughter, Elizabeth her second, and she had an eldest daughter named Mary Ann who was the widow of a Captain John Galvin of The Indian Subordinate Medical Service.

She describes daughter Elizabeth Bedford as deceased and leaves money for masses to be saiid in la Chapelle Montligeon in France for the souls of herself, her husband, her sons (plural) and her deceased daur Elizabeth.

She says she is also unable to read and write English manuscript

This looks to be Mary Ann's marriage, aged 16:

First name(s) John
Last name Galvin
Marriage year 1873
Marriage date 9 Jan 1873
Spouse's first name Mary Ann<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's last name Hexter<<<<<<<<<<
Place Naini Tal
Presidency Bengal
Groom's age 25
Bride's age 16
Groom's father's first name John
Groom's father's last name -
Bride's father's first name -
Bride's father's last name -
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Archive reference N-1-143
Folio number 365
Entry number -
Record set British India Office marriages

Her father's name is not listed on the image.

Husband John Galvin died 1908:

First name(s) John
Last name Galvin
Birth year 1845
Death date 04 Oct 1908
Death year 1908
Age 63
Burial date 05 Oct 1908
Place Naini Tal
Presidency Bengal
Archive Reference N-1-353
Folio -
Page 254
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Record set British India Office deaths & burials

Image says cause of death was cancer of the liver.

Elizabeth bedford nee Hexter also died in 1908:

First name(s) Elizabeth Cecilia
Last name Bedford
Birth year 1866
Death date 07 Aug 1908
Death year 1908
Age 42
Burial date 08 Aug 1908
Place Hazaribaugh
Presidency Bengal
Archive Reference N-1-351
Folio -
Page 140
Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Record set British India Office deaths & burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

On the image she is described as the wife of Nolan Bedford (her second marriage, already posted on this thread), and the cause of death was cardiac failure.

Gritty

Gritty Report 4 Jul 2015 19:24

GRO Regimental Birth Indices Supplement (1761 to 1924) Transcription
First name(s) JOSEPH G
Last name HORROCKS
Birth year 1867
Place MUTTRA
Country INDIA
Record source GRO Regimental Birth Indices Supplement (1761 to 1924)
Volume 427
Page 63
Record set British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005