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looking for ancestors of my grand parents, catherine mulligan & john monahan (the letter (G ) got added to our surname of monahan somewhere thru the years... ) i believe my gran came from strathaven & grandfather's family came from county caven in ireland, but they got married in strathaven lanarkshire in 1902, any info would be a great help especially with my grandfather's roots.... i also believe he had 6 brothers which all went to america for work, but my g/father fell from scaffolding & was killed so my gran was left with 2 kids to bring up on her own.... think he died around the 1920's....

Welcome to the boards, Kate.

Can you give us an idea of when your grandfather was born, please?
Was Mulligan your grandmother's maiden name as well as her married name?
(Or, which of them was Mulligan and which Monaghan?)
Did your grandfather die in Scotland, or had he gone to USA with his brothers?

Their marriage cert would give details of their parents' names. Do you have a copy?

I don't see their marriage on ScotlandsPeople, 1895 -1905, having tried various combinations of both surnames..

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Name: James D. Mulligan
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 1907
Event Place: Strathaven, , South Lanarkshire, Scotland
Death Date: 1907
Affiliate Record Identifier: 136302384
Cemetery: Strathaven Cemetery

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Name: Matthew H. Mulligan
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 1979
Event Place: Strathaven, , South Lanarkshire, Scotland
Death Date: 1979
Affiliate Record Identifier: 136302386
Cemetery: Strathaven Cemetery

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Name: Sarah Mulligan
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 1967
Event Place: Strathaven, , South Lanarkshire, Scotland
Death Date: 1967
Affiliate Record Identifier: 136302387
Cemetery: Strathaven Cemetery

Are you certain that Patrick was born in Ireland please?

1901

Patrick Mulligan
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relationship: Son (Child)
Mother's name: Bridget Mulligan
Gender: Male
Where born: Strathaven, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 621
Registration district: Avondale
Civil Parish: Avondale
Town: Strathaven
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 60 Castle St
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 13
Household schedule number: 52
LINE: 12
Roll: CSSCT1901_239
Household Members:
Name Age
Bridget Mulligan 55
Patrick Mulligan 23
Kate Mulligan 18

I'll let Kate know how to find her replies :-)

Not seeing a marriage in 1901 either-

there are these marriages:

1901
MULLIGAN PATRICK
GAY MARY
ST ROLLOX GLASGOW CITY/LANARK
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1901
MULLIGAN PATRICK
KILDAY MARGARET
COATBRIDGE OR OLD MONKLAND /LANARK
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1898
MONAGHAN PATRICK
CALLAGHAN CATHERINE
PARTICK GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

thanks for you reply's....


sorry i got the msg wrong above she married john monahan ( somewhere along the line the letter (G) got added to our surname....lol they married in st. patricks chapel in strathaven am sure it was 1901, i did have the certificate but seem to have misplaced it....
yes my g/mother's maiden name was Mulligan then Monahan when she married.

i was more interested in my g/fathers side, all i know is he had a brother named Bernard but seems their was more brothers but i can't seem to find anything !!!

patrick mulligan was my g/father he was married to bridget devine....

it was john monahan my other g/father who went to usa with his brothers as my older sister told me years ago, sadly she died a few yrs ago so can't get any more info...

not really sure on birth date for g/father but around 1881 i think !!!

Just for reference the marriage was 1902:
1902
MONAGHAN JOHN
MULLIGAN CATHERINE
AVONDALE /LANARK

John's parents were Patrick Monahan and Ann (nee Galligan)

possible baptism:
Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name: John Monahan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1880
Birth Place: Gallon, Ireland
Father's name: Patrick Monahan
Mother's name: Anne Galligan Monahan
FHL Film Number: 256053

Family?:

Baptism
Name: Patrick Monahan
Birth Date: 1 Jun 1872
Birth Place: Cavan, Cavan, Ireland
Baptism Place: Cavan, Cavan, Ireland
Father's name: Patrick Monahan
Mother's name: Anne Galligan
FHL Film Number: 255852
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Baptism:
Name Bernard Monaghan
Gender Male
Birth Date 03 Oct 1875
Birthplace Cavan, Ireland
Father's Name Patrick Monaghan
Mother's Name Anne Galligan
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Baptism:
Name: James Monahan
Birth Date: 29 Jun 1878
Birth Place: Gallon, Cavan, Ireland
Father's name: Patrick Monahan
Mother's name: Anne Monahan Galligan
FHL Film Number: 256011
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Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950
Name: Barney Monahan (Born County Cavan, Ireland)
Gender: Male
Age: 37
Birth Date: 1876
Marriage Date: 4 Sep 1913
Marriage Place: Silver Bow, , Montana
Father: Patrick Monahan
Mother: Ann Galligan
Spouse: Hannah Barrett
FHL Film Number: 1906804

James and Patrick travelled to US together in 1899- going to meet up with brother Bernard:

Name: James Monahan
Arrival Date: 13 Apr 1899
Birth Date: abt 1879
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Queenstown, Ireland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Teutonic

John 1901:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
53, Castle Street, Strathaven, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland

John Campbell Head Married Male 40 1861 Water Inspector Strathaven, Lanarkshire
Catherine Campbell Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Stonehouse, Lanarkshire,
Daniel Campbell Son - Male 14 1887 Railway Engine Stoker Auchenheath, Lanarkshire,
John Campbell Son - Male 12 1889 Scholar Auchenheath, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Hugh Campbell Son - Male 9 1892 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Catherine Campbell Daughter - Female 7 1894 Scholar Strathaven, Lanarkshire,
Susan Campbell Daughter - Female 5 1896 Scholar Strathaven, Lanarkshire,
Peter Campbell Son - Male 3 1898 - Strathaven, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Henry Carty Nephew Single Male 18 1883 Coal Miner Strathaven, Lanarkshire,
John Carty Nephew Single Male 16 1885 Pony Driver In Coal Mine Strathaven, Lanarkshire,
Hugh Carty Nephew - Male 6 1895 Scholar Strathaven, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Annie Carty Niece - Female 9 1892 Scholar Strathaven, Lanarkshire, Scotland
John Monahan Boarder Single Male 21 1880 Coal Miner Ireland
James McCormick Boarder Single Male 23 1878 Railway Labourer Ireland
Edward McCormick Boarder Single Male 21 1880 Labourer At Coal Pit Head Ireland

wow.... that's amazing thank you so much gritty.... :-) x

i have a Laurence mulligan married to ann mc guire i presume they are patricks parents ?

any more info on the monahan or monaghans would be fantastic :-) x

You have on your opening post that you thought Catherine was from Co. Cavan, Ireland- but this looks to be her baptism in Avondale, Lanark:

Name Catherine Mulligan
Gender Female
Birth Date 02 Dec 1881
Birthplace Avondale, Lanark, Scotland
Father's Name Patrick Mulligan
Mother's Name Bridget Divine

This is Catherine (known as Katie) with her mother and brother in 1901- the address matches the address on her wedding entry- confirming she was born in Scotland:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
60, Castle Street, Strathaven, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Bridget Mulligan Head Married Female 55 1846 Farm Servant Hamilton, Lanarkshire,
Patrick Mulligan Son Single Male 23 1878 Coal Miner Strathaven, Lanarkshire,
Kate Mulligan Daughter Single Female 18 1883 Silk Weaver Strathaven, Lanarkshire,
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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hodgin's Land, Castle Street, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Bridget Mulligan Head Married Female 50 1841 Stocking Weaver Ireland
Alice Mulligan Daughter Unmarried Female 21 1870 Hosiery Factory Worker Strathaven, Lanarkshire,
Katie Mulligan Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Strathaven, Lanarkshire
Bridget Mulligan Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Strathaven, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pathfoot Walter Brown's House, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Patrick Mulligan Head Married Male 41 1840 Ag Lab Ireland
Bridget Mulligan Wife Married Female 39 1842 Ag Labourer's Wife Ireland
Mary Mulligan Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1865 - Strathaven, Lanarkshire,
Bridget Mulligan Daughter - Female 7 1874 Scholar Strathaven, Lanarkshire,
Patrick Mulligan Son - Male 4 1877 - Strathaven, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Daniel Mulligan Son - Male 2 1879 - Strathaven, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Kirk Yard Street, Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Patrick Mulligan Head Married Male 30 1841 Labourer Ag Ireland
Bridget D Mulligan Wife Married Female 28 1843 House Work Ireland
Mary Mulligan Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Alice Mulligan Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Avondale, Lanarkshire, Scotland

yes again my mistake my g/mother was born in strathaven, we used to go vist relatives there when i was a small child... thank you again gritty (y) x

It looks likely that Patrick Mulligan (your Great grandfather who married Bridget Devine) b, about 1840 died in Scotland. If you don't already have it, get his death registration from Scotlandspeople to check if the informant gave the names of his parents. You say you have a Laurence Mulligan married to Ann McGuire, any idea where you got the information from please?

Possible brother for Catherine?

Name Laurance Mulligan
Gender Male
Birth Date 04 Nov 1863
Birthplace AVONDALE,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name Patrick Mulligan
Mother's Name Bridget Divine

Edit: Death 1865
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I'm struggling to find a marriage for Patrick Monahan/ Monaghan & Ann Galligan.

They are not listed as deceased on son's (John) marriage in 1902. Patrick is listed as Farmer.

Wondered if this was the family in 1911? (same area as John's baptism):

1911: married 43 years (9 children- all still living)
Residents of a house 1 in Gallon Glebe (Moynehall, Cavan)
Monaghan Patrick 72 Male Head of Family Farmer, Roman Catholic
Monaghan Anne 72 Female Wife Roman Catholic
Monaghan Michael 25 Male Son Roman Catholic
Monaghan Alice 27 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
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