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thank you for the source, figured a few may have died - 11 children in total. Still a mystery about where Mary hart (nMcquarry) was at the time of the 1911 census, doesn't help that her mother in law has the same name - mary jane hart.

John Hart born 1912 as posted by AnnCardiff ? died 1913

First name(s) JOHN
Last name HART
Gender Male
Birth year 1912
Age 1
Death quarter 4
Death year 1913
District SALFORD County Lancashire
Volume 8D Page 124

1918 baptism for Joannes found by Eringobragh is in the same place as the others posted - the RC Cathedral for Salford and the forenames have been recorded in Latin.

Cathedral Church of St John the Evangelist, Salford, Lancs.
Joannes Hart - filius Georgii Henrici Hart & Mariae Joannae (formerly McQuarry)

Written in Latin Joannes will be John, the fillies meaning son and will be this birth

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) JOHN
Last name HART
Birth year 1918
Birth quarter 4
Mother's last name MCQUARRY
District SALFORD County Lancashire
Volume 8D Page 146

the opc site is brilliant thank you for recommending it.

who was joanne's mother? was it mary jane mcquarry?

they certainly were fertile - never knew anything about a joanne, what does it say on her record? thanks again for everything x

Not stupid at all...a Sponsor/"Godparent" depends on which term the Priest used.

There is a large gap in the Church Reg.which is why I could not look at the years after Sara 1908) and before Joannes (1918)

probably a stupid question but what is a sponsor?

wow that's brilliant Eringobragh thank you

wow that's brilliant Eringobragh thank you

You can check all these out on...Lancs OPC site....


Baptism: 22 Nov 1918 Cathedral Church of St John the Evangelist, Salford, Lancs.
Joannes Hart - filius Georgii Henrici Hart & Mariae Joannae (formerly McQuarry)
Born: 14 Nov 1918
Abode: 5 N. Jas. Henry St.
God Parents: Sarah Anna Fitzgerald

These are the children of George Hart and Mary Jane McQuarry....address for all is 25 or 26 North James Henry St.


Baptism: 13 Feb 1903 Cathedral Church of St John the Evangelist, Salford, Lancs.
Mary Hart - [Child] of Geo. Henry Hart & Mary Jane (formerly McQuarry)
Born: 8 Feb 1903
Abode: 26 N. Jas. Henry Street
God Parents: Thos. Hart; Sarah Ann Hart
Baptised by: Henry Walsh
Register: Baptisms 1901 - 1908, Page 108, Entry 8
Source: Original Register at LRO Preston

Catherine..Born 1st October 1904 Baptised 2nd Oct.1904

George...Born 19th Oct 1905 Baptised 20th Oct.1905

Sara Helen ..Born 25th 1908 April Baptised 26th April 1908

Sponsor for the 3 above was Nellie/Helen Simpson

thank you will try that site. Thank you again so much for your help tonight - very fast work x

why don't you have a go yourself on this free easy to use site

www.familysearch.org

thank you again x

I think Mary Jane Hart (n Mcquarry) was around 30 in the 1911 census

I think Mary Jane Hart (n Mcquarry) was around 30 in the 1911 census

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Name George Hart
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Lancashire
Parish Pendleton
Sub-District Regent Road
Registration District Salford
Gender Male
Age 6
Birthplace Salford, Lancashire
Record Type Household

please if you can could you check the birth records for George hart, (c1907), Elizabeth (c1912), Sara Ellen 1908, Joseph 1912. These should also be Mary's children. I think the Mary Jane Hart on the 1911 census is her mother in law - if living in north james henry street. Same name...

Name Mary Jane Hart
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Lancashire
Parish Salford
Sub-District Greengate
Registration District Salford
Gender Female
Age 57
Birthplace Belfast Ireland Resident, County Antrim
Record Type Household

Thank you so so much Ann, I really appreciate all your work. Do you have any ideas on how I can locate Mary Mcquarry on the census of 1911? wonder what happened to her. I know she had other children but wondered whether she returned to Ireland... its very addictive researching the family tree x