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One wonders how Mark worked back to this person, thinking his surname was Alsop?

Also - OP has Father as George Tilley Alsop - the George we have been following was born in Wymeswold, Leicestershire, but George Tilley Allsopp was born in Stanion, Northamptonshire according to the 1871 posted by Malyon earlier, so why does Mark think he is the Father?

From what I can gather by digging around, George Tilley "Allsopp" was actually born George Tilley in 1864 before the marriage in 1866 of his parents George Allsopp and Caroline Tilley.

He's recorded with his parents in 1871, but also appears to be recorded with his maternal grandparents James and Charlotte (although recorded as their son). He is also with James and Charlotte in 1881 when he's correctly recorded as grandson.

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Main Street, St Peter, Kettering, Northamptonshire, England

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

James Tilley Head - Male 52 1819 - Northamptonshire, England
Charlotte Tilley Wife - Female 49 1822 - Northamptonshire, England Transcription
Jem Tilley Son - Male 18 1853 - Northamptonshire, England
Mary A Tilley Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Northamptonshire, England
John Tilley Son - Male 15 1856 - Northamptonshire, England
William Tilley Son - Male 11 1860 - Northamptonshire, England
Sarah Tilley Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Northamptonshire, England
George Tilley Son - Male 5 1866 - Northamptonshire, England << Stanion

ADDED: And also recorded with his parents

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Queen Street, Geddington, Kettering, Northamptonshire, England

Household Members

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Charles Allsopp Head - Male 28 1843 - Northamptonshire, England
Caroline Allsopp Wife - Female 26 1845 - Northamptonshire, England
George Tilley Allsopp Son - Male 6 1865 - Northamptonshire, England
Hannah Allsopp Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Northamptonshire, England
Charles William Allsopp Son - Male 1 1870 - Northamptonshire, England

a better possibility for George's first marriage - ROSE.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)
Allsopp George Birmingham 6d 163
Armstrong James Charles Birmingham 6d 163
Baker Rose Birmingham 6d 163
Baller Rose Birmingham 6d 163
Caswell William Birmingham 6d 163
Williams Matilda Birmingham 6d 163

Son George Edward was born Q4 (posted earlier) 1896 Birmingham

and there is this death the same Quarter
Deaths Dec 1896 (>99%)
Allsopp Rose 26 Birmingham 6d 114

The 1881 for George Tilley "Allsopp"

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
9, No, Stanion, Kettering, Northamptonshire, England

Household Members

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

James Tilley Head Married Male 62 1819 Ag Laborer Stanion, Northamptonshire, England
Charlotte Tilley Wife Married Female 59 1822 - Northamptonshire, England
John Tilley Son Single Male 25 1856 Ag Lab Stanion, Northamptonshire, England
William Tilley Son Single Male 20 1861 Groom Stanion, Northamptonshire, England
George Tilley Grand Son Single Male 16 1865 Ag Laborer Stanion, Northamptonshire
Mary Ann Tilley Grand Daughter Single Female 5 1876 - Kettering, Northamptonshire

A tree on Ancestry has Goldsmith W. P. Alsop 1898, son of George Tilly Alsop & Harriet Annie Allsopp. It quotes 1911 census, Kings Norton, Worcestershire where he's aged 13.
This is the same census that we have where we have proved that his last name was Goldsmith.

Just had a look at that tree Margee - George's birthplace wanders between Northants and Leicestershire depending what year the census was and how the name fitted, he obviously hopped around the country - another good Ancestry tree ??

Baptism of the wrong George
Name: George Tilley
Birth Date: Abt 1865
Baptism Date: 23 Apr 1865
Age: 0
Parish: Stanion, Northamptonshire, England
Mother: Caroline Tilley
Parish as it Appears: Stanion
Register Type: Parish Registers

Ah, but is it the "wrong" George?!

It depends which Allsopp line Mark is following ........

So, Mark, is George Tilly Alsop your ancestor? If so there is no relaionship to Douglas Park Goldsmith who you have called Goldsmith Douglas Park Alsop.

George Tilly Alaop 1865 in my tree is the son of Charles H Alsop 1842 and Charlotte Tilley. Charles is the son of Charles Alsop and Ann Franklin. Maria Alsop 1848 is my 3x great grandmother who is the daughter of Charles Alsop and Ann Franklin.

Burial
County Northamptonshire
Place Geddington
Church St Mary Magdalene
RegisterNumber 78
BurialDate 22 May 1915
Forename Caroline
Surname ALLSOPP
Age 70
Abode Geddington


Burial
County Northamptonshire
Place Geddington
Church St Mary Magdalene
RegisterNumber 225
BurialDate 02 Feb 1926
Forename Charles
Surname ALLSOPP
Age 82
Abode Geddington

(above from below, if relating anywhere!)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Deaths Mar 1926 (>99%)
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ALLSOPP Charles 82 Kettering 3b 177

Mark, if it's definitely George Tilley Allsop that you're following then the Goldsmith Allsops are no connection.

George Tilley Allsop was the son of Charles Allsopp and CAROLINE Tilley (all details posted above).