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This link shows some info about Cowen's Crossing where the accident occurred, there are contact details for an archivist at the bottom of the page - might be worth a punt?

http://www.twsitelines.info/SMR/8466

Well, you can have the satisfaction that your Ancestry tree will be the only one with the correct death info!

Let's hope John's descendants also inherit his youthfulness - to be working at 72 and to be taken as "around 56" he must have been quite fit and sprightly.

The death cert on ancestry is incorrect as he did not have a son Thomas who was present at his death. I think my husband would rather have his great grandad killed by a train than have senile decay. We are now investigating his merchant navy tickets. John's son,grand son and now great grand son(my Hubby) all have master's tickets. Thank you again,
Shelagh

Hi Shelagh - no that's the full article as posted in the link, I checked other local newspapers just in case but nothing on-line. That's not to say that a local library mightn't have something in their archives.

And don't forget that his birthplace is HowdOn (no matter what the census mis-transcriptions say) - we locals get narked about the common mis-spelling! ;-)

Wow!! Thank you so much for all that info but in particular the death reported in Shields Gazette. His address in 1901 was 156 Cleveland Street so he was the chap killed by the train. I would never of found that out Marie Celeste! Is there a longer article in the archives of the newspaper?
Thank you all so much,
Shelagh

Yes, you are right I'm always very wary of info posted on Ancestry until I have checked it out myself...this is a classic example!

It's obvious that so many people on Ancestry have copied the wrong death from each other. This happens so often and people just don't check the facts.

The correct date of death is 18 January 1901 and it was NOT at Marley Hill and it was NOT due to senile decay.

Love the Article, MC.....it's great when it all comes together!

There is a Tree on Ancestry that has a copy of a Death Cert on it and I can't quite make the age out yet it is either 65 or 68! But is the wrong one because Occ is a Coke Drawer.

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I think the Cert is for the 68 year old date is death 26 Jan 1901 Marley Hill Durham

Looks like the Cert reqd is the one for the 65 year old! There is plenty of info to support getting the right Cert.

It was 156 Cleveland St

That death IS him! Isabella is at 156 Cleveland Street on the 1901. Can only assume he must have looked young for his age.

The death could be one of these (Gateshead covers Blaydon, where he was killed):

Deaths Mar 1901
Grant John 65 Gateshead 10a 596
Grant John 68 Gateshead 10a 588

That looks like our man MC and within the timeframe I gave

So we can scrap the West Derby death in 1900 then!

I'll check out the full article for this and add a link:

Last night a man named John Grant.who was engaged as watchman on the 'Tyne Commissioners' dredger lying opposite Stella Staithes, was accidentally killed on the North-Eastern Railway at Blaydon. Grant was, it appears ....
19 January 1901 - Shields Daily Gazette

ADDED:
Here's the image - the age is out but the job seems too much of a coincidence

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/17944585

What was Isabella's address in 1901?

There's always the possibility that he didn't die on land, hence no civil death registration.

Deaths at sea, 1781-1968 Transcription
First name(s) John
Last name Grant
Gender Male
Birth year -
Death year 1893
Death date Jul 1893
Reported date 1893
Departure port -
Series BT 334
Box 0007

or

Deaths at sea, 1781-1968 Transcription
First name(s) John
Last name Grant
Gender Male
Birth year -
Death year 1897
Death date May 1897
Reported date 1897
Departure port -
Series BT 334
Box 0016

or

Deaths at sea, 1781-1968 Transcription
First name(s) John
Last name Grant
Gender Male
Birth year -
Death year 1897
Death date Oct 1897
Reported date 1897
Departure port -
Series BT 334
Box 0016

These records have no other information on the images. There are other John Grants died in the same time frame but they do have further information which eliminates them.

I think this may be the burial for the 1900 death posted:

Liverpool, England, Catholic Burials, 1813-1988
Name: John Grant
Birth Year: abt 1829
Age: 71
Death Year: abt 1900
Burial Date: 8 Oct 1900
Parish: Yew Tree Cemetery, Lancashire, England

Address was 1 Empress Road.

ADDED: The 1901 census has widow Mary Grant age 53 at 1 Empress Road, West Derby

John Grant's Masters & Mates Certificates are on Ancestry. Cover period 1857 to 1862 (although the 1862 certificate is annotated that he passed in steam in 1871).

In 1857 he lived at 115 Church Street, North Shields and in 1862 he was at 22 Little Bedford Street, North Shields.

ADDED: The address on the 1861 census posted by Londonbelle was Rudyerd Street, North Shields (mis-spelled as Rudyard).

I note that on the 1911 census, although widowed, Isabella has put the complete number of years married as 44 years and this has been crossed out along with details of children born to marriage. So if John & Isabella married in on 8 Jan 1857 we must be looking for a death in 1901 for John. If Isabella is a widow in 1901 census and all the other info is correct we must be looking for a death between 8 Jan 1901 and 31 Mar 1901 when the 1901 census took place.


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The nearest death I can find is

Deaths Dec 1900

Grant John 71 West Derby 8b 357

Title:
St Cuthberts RC Church, North Shields

Reference:
C.NS14

Date:
1807-1988

Held by:
Tyne and Wear Archives, not available at The National Archives

Language:
English

Extent:
13 series + 14 files

Administrative History:

***The early records in this collection predate the first church in North Shields built in 1820/1821 in Bedford Street ****

The present St Cuthberts Church, Presbytery and Parish Centre comprise one unit in Albion Road West, North Shields. The new church was opened on 22 December 1975 and the Parish Centre a month later.

Bap for John - Non-conformist Register


Name John Grant
Birth 18 May 1829
Bap 24 May 1829
Parents Peter & Mary Grant formerly Macay
Godfather Patrick McCormish
Godmother Margaret Brown