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At least you found the 2nd one, more than I could manage. You are all geniuses

Yes, but I can't find the 1st one!

Maryb.

Well found Mary

So his marriage to Annie Teaster was his 3rd marriage!

Looks like you found him ! Thank you so much, I might be able to find out where he was born now !!! Yipee. Thank you everyone.

William Henry Howard 42 widow of 6,North Row a paperhanger dad William a plumber dead,married on 31/1/1903 to Elizabeth Aston 42 spinster dad Edward a Woodburner dead.

Elizabeth Howard died 26/8/1907 of 21,Upper park Road New South Gate Middlesex wife of William Henry Howard a Paperhanger £37 17s 6d

William was at that address 1909

Maryb.

I am sorry but I have to leave the board now but I will check in tomorrow to see if you have found anything else. Thank you for your time and patience. :-)

I am not sure either of these are actually relatives but they could be. I do think maybe James Howard is a clue but don't know where to go with it.

:-) Margee

wondering about this one?

Name: Annie Howard
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 26 Apr 1889
Father's name: William Howard ( coal merchant)
Mother's name: Mary Howard
Parish or Poor Law Union: Holy Trinity Marylebone Road
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

12 Wimpole street

Snap, Rose!

The Erratts from the 1911 census:

Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
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ERRATT John Percival Marylebone 1a 918
HOWARD Annie Amelia Marylebone 1a 918

Just a sideways detour in case it helps, this is possibly the marriage of John Erratt to Howard

Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)

ERRATT John Percival Marylebone 1a 918
HOWARD Annie Amelia Marylebone 1a 918

James could be a relative but I have no idea really, does seem a coincidence.
Oh dear Pentonville ??
The witnesses were a Frank Inge and A Curtis.

The only thing I have found so far is a negative, neither were at 15 Theberton street in 1907 or 1908 acc' to electoral roll ( though she wouldn't be anyway, and nor would he nec')

The institution where Malyon found a William Howard in Islington in 1911 was His Majesty's Prison, Pentonville, Caledonian Rd.

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
15 Theberton St Islington London N, Islington, London, England

John Erratt Head Married Male Sign Writer 26 1885 London Westminster
Amelia Erratt Wife Married Female Charwoman 23 1888 London Westminster
James Howard Brother In Law Single Male Sign Fixer 21 1890 London Westminster

Is James a relative?

Who were the witnesses?

John Errat is still living here in 1913- listed on the electoral registers.

15 Theberton Street, Islington. they were both living there

What was the address given on the marriage cert?

Just checked their marriage cert and William was down as a paperhanger and his father as a master plumber (dec'd)

Sorry I can't find him either now, I was sure I found them both in Islington but I have got so confused with conflicting family stories maybe I am dreaming !!

this is the only william howard i can find in 1911 census islington
not sure what institution he is in

William Howard
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name William Howard
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County London
Parish Islington
Sub-District Lower Holloway
Registration District Islington
Gender Male
Age 46
Birthplace Co Dawn Newry Resident, County Down
Record Type Institution