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William Hutchison BUCHANAN

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Lorri

Lorri Report 21 Sep 2015 00:28

thanks will check it all out. Cheers Lorri

Gee

Gee Report 20 Sep 2015 11:22


Name:William Buchanan

Age:19

Estimated birth year:abt 1822

Birth Place:Ireland

Civil Year:1841

Prison:Greenlaw

Prison Location:Chirnside

Occupation:Labourer


No idea if this is your man?

Kay????

Kay???? Report 20 Sep 2015 11:00

Have you checked out the Tazmanian records,there are a few Wiliiam Buchanans listed on their site.

He may of course been an early immigrant.

Lorri

Lorri Report 20 Sep 2015 09:54

The child of William and Eliza was sentenced to 14 mths in the Reformatory for being an uncontrollable 14 years old. Also in 1877 the same child Elizabeth Buchanan was sentenced to 7 days hard labor for being involved with other female in setting up a brothel in Adelaide. This child married George James Henry White in 1877.
The police report from state records states the father as William Hutchinson Buchanan.
Thank you once again for your input I am now going through the shipping lists again
Cheers Lorri . :-) :-)

Lorri

Lorri Report 20 Sep 2015 09:43

Hi all I don't know what happen to the last message I sent through but it hasn't appeared here.
I was not sure if the marriage of William to Hannah Quinnell was the one I am looking for,(it seems not the right one and that one is still in England in 1861) i had no proof. I do know that my William hutchinson Buchanan is the man buried in the West Tce Cemetery in Adelaide along with his wife Elizebeth (Eliza) nee Williams, as the details from his families are correct. His employment as an engine driver at Goodwood Adelaide notes him as Wiilam Hutchinson Buchanan. The funeral notice has him as William H Buchanan also. The 3 birth certificates I have on his children only state him as William Buchanan but employed as a joiner . Thank you all for your information it has now given me other areas to try and track him down, He is not recorded in the Births or Marriage for South Australia
Cheers Lorri :-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 Sep 2015 08:21

South Australian Register (Adelaide, SA : 1839 - 1900) Friday 20 February 1874 p

POLICE COURTS
William Buchanan labourer, and his wife Eliza, of Adelaide...
A dispute occurred, and the female defendant on being designated an "Irish--

(that would be above 'do')

Chris :)

(another Baptism also)

James Peter Buchanan
3 Apr 1853 Lambeth St John the Evangelist Lambeth William Buchanan,
Hannah Buchanan (Born 6 March)


Deaths Sep 1854 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------
BUCHANAN James Peter Lambeth 1d 476


Deaths Mar 1860 (>99%)
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Buchanan Thomas Hutchinson Lambeth 1d 228


Births Dec 1860 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
BUCHANAN Emma Jane Lambeth 1d 259

(last name on 1861)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 20 Sep 2015 08:08

To recap what Gins has posted...

This is the marriage of William Hutchinson Buchanan to Hannah Quinell - he is a chair maker

Name: William Hutchinson Buchanan
Spouse: Hannah Quinnell
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Jun 1845
Parish: St Mary, Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Thomas Hutchinson Buchanan
Spouse Father: George Quinnell
Register Type: Parish Register

And baptism of a child Thomas Hutchinson Buchanan - still a chair maker

Name: Thomas Hutchinson Buchanan
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 Apr 1855
Father's name: William Hutchinson Buchanan
Mother's name: Hannah Buchanan
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St Thomas
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

1861 census

Name: William H Buchanan
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Buchanan
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Waterloo Road Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 350
Folio: 154
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
William H Buchanan 39
Hannah Buchanan 36
Sarah Buchanan 14
William T Buchanan 12
Hannah Buchanan 10
Emma Buchanan 7/12

So I think it is impossible they were one and same.

One of the trees on Ancestry has Eliza cited in court having been called an Irish....

So perhaps that is the angle to follow for both of them

Jude

Lorri

Lorri Report 20 Sep 2015 03:24

Hi all thank you for all the info, William Hutchinson Buchanan , worked as an engine driver going on the notes on his death certificate, living last address Pirie St Adelaide. Only noted as William Buchanan on his death certificate. on the West Tce., Cemetery list has him as William H. Buchanan and wife Eliza Buchanan. Police report, when he has his daughter sent to Reformatory School (1874) and to prison for 1 week in 1877) has him as William Hutchinson Buchanan. His records for work has him as William Hutchison. When his son Robert was born (1858) he was working as a joiner ,, of Happy Valley.When his daughter was born he was a joiner, when his son George 91863) was born he was a labourer. On these certificates he was down as William Buchanan no middle name. Also Elizabeth (Eliza) Buchanan was noted on the certificates as formaly Williams. Trove newspapers (1893) have him as William H. Buchanan in funeral notices. I have no idea who his parent were. :-( I can not find any birth for him under that name in Australia. :-( :-(
Thank you all again with your messages it gives me other areas to tackle. :-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Sep 2015 20:05

(must be below then!)

Chris :)

The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1889 - 1931) Saturday 27 May 1899

Family Notices
THE FRIENDS of the late Mrs. ELIZA BUCHANAN are respectfully informed that her Funeral will leave the Adelaide Hospital TOMORROW (Sunday) at 3.30 p.m. for the West Terrace Cemetery.

Gee

Gee Report 19 Sep 2015 19:10


Name:Eliza Buchanan

Birth Year:abt 1829

Age:70

Death Date:26 May 1899

Death Place:Adelaide

Residence Place:Adelaide

Father's name:William Hutchison Buchanan ?????

Registration Place:Adelaide, South Australia

Page Number:278

Volume Number:261

Edit



Name:William Buchanan

Birth Year:abt 1822

Age:71

Death Date:27 Mar 1893

Death Place:Adelaide

Residence Place:Adelaide

Registration Place:Adelaide, South Australia

Page Number:17

Volume Number:209


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Sep 2015 18:50

Lorri Report 19 Sep 2015 08:54

I have burial details on both Eliza (Elizabeth) and Williams in West Tce Cemetery


(not seeing above on link posted!, William H as above)

Chris :)

Gee

Gee Report 19 Sep 2015 18:44

We don't know Chris!

We need to know more info from Lorri as it seems there are two different families

The trees that I've looked at seem VERY suspect

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 19 Sep 2015 18:29

(nothing to do with below is he?)

http://www5.aca.sa.gov.au/recordssearch/Help.htm

(West Terrace Cemetery)


Name: Buchanan, William H
Date of Death: 28 March 1893
Age: 71 Years
Last Abode: ADELAIDE, SA
Service Type: Burial
Cemetery: West Terrace Cemetery
Section: Plan 3
Row Number: 20
Site Number: 24


The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1889 - 1931) Tuesday 28 March 1893 p 4

Family Notices
On the 27th March, at Pirie-street Adelaide. William, the beloved husband of E. Buchanan, and Father of J. and R. Buchanan and Mrs. H. White. 71yrs.


http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y


Groom Given Name(s): George James Henry Richard
Groom Last Name: WHITE
Bride Last Name Surname: BUCHANAN
Bride Given Name(s): Elizabeth
Marriage Year: 1877

Chris :)

Buchanan Emma Elizabeth 11/07/1908 63 Years END West Terrace Cemetery Plan 3

Buchanan Emily Eliza 06/10/1956 73 Years NTH UNLEY West Terrace Cemetery Eyre


The Register (Adelaide, SA : 1901 - 1929) Monday 13 July 1908 p 4

DEATHS.
BUCHANAN - On the 10th July, at Hughes street, Mile End, Emma Elizabeth Buchanan, elder daughter of the late Mrs. E. N. Fayers, aged 63 years

Gee

Gee Report 19 Sep 2015 18:16

That was a good away result against the Dons

We play tomorrow :-(

Edit; banter about footy)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 19 Sep 2015 18:04

The marriage for William and Hannah is on Ancestry...I agree ...two different families so need Lorri to come back and advise how she gets back to these people.

btw whoo hoo Leeds today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gee

Gee Report 19 Sep 2015 17:47

The William in Oz does not show a middle name on the death reg plus no middle name for any William Buchanan on the Oz ER

Seems to me, they are two different families

There is a death in Guildford for a William age 55, 1868, age is out but hey, we're used to that!

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 19 Sep 2015 17:18

Yes Gins...just what I was getting at! We need Lorri to clarify things - why she thinks her ancestor was the one with Hannah? And if it was, why she thought Hannah died in 1863.

Most importantly, the Hutchinson middle name....obviously the one married to Hannah does have that middle name...but is that the same man that Lorri followed to Australia?


Jude

Gee

Gee Report 19 Sep 2015 16:59

Hannah (Anna) was very much alive in 1866



Name: Beaufoy Emma Beauchanan

Record Type:Baptism

Baptism Date:21 Jan 1866

Father's name:William Beauchanan <<Chair maker (as on previous documents)

Mother's name:Anna Beauchanan

Parish or Poor Law Union:Southwark St Jude

Borough:Southwark

Register Type:Parish Registers


Beaufoy shows on census records with James Young

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Hannah goes on to marry James Young in 1869


Marriages Dec 1869
BUCHANAN Hannah Brentford 3a 121

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Name: Beaufoy Emma Buchener

Estimated birth year:abt 1866

Age:18

Spouse:Henry Jeal <<Painter

Spouse Age:22

Record Type:Marriage

Event Date:21 Jan 1884

Parish:St Philip, Lambeth

Borough:Lambeth

Father Name:William Buchener <<French polisher (dead)

Spouse Father:Robert Jeal <<Labourer

Register Type:Parish Register

Wit: James & Ann Young




Kay????

Kay???? Report 19 Sep 2015 15:29

What was Williams employment in 1854 and his fathers name.?

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 19 Sep 2015 14:53

How have you got back to him - Hannah clearly didn't die when you thought she did

Jude