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Proctor baptisms please

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cane

cane Report 28 Oct 2015 18:48

Hey Chris Ho :) Many thanks for the Periodical News, all I can say is WOW :-)

Sylvia Thanks so mush :-)

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

cane

cane Report 28 Oct 2015 18:43

:-D

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Oct 2015 18:40

(nudge, not sure if seen!)

Chris :)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 26 Oct 2015 18:47

????


the burial of the Mary Ann Proctorposted by Chris above?

ie

Deaths Sep 1843 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
PROCTOR Mary Ann Manchester 20 502



Burial: 10 Sep 1843 Rusholme Rd Cemetery, Chorlton-on-Medlock, Lancashire, England
Mary A. Procter -
Age: 5mnths
Abode: Manchester
Grave: 516
Cause of Death: Diarrhea
Buried by: H H Jones
Register: Burials 1835 - 1845, Entry 37243
Source: Private Transcription

from http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Oct 2015 07:32

13 August 1853 - Preston Chronicle - Preston, Lancashire, England

TO LET, the "Lee" FARM, in Pleasington, consisting of a Farm-house and Outbuildings, and 48 statute acres, or thereabouts, of Arable, Meadow, and Pasture Land, in the occupation of Mr. Thomas Crook.

(relates to address 1851 posted earlier, thought Father of Ellen on 1840 Marriage was James?)


(have I missed something!)

Chris :)

(and looks like same Thomas (Farmer, as 1851) and Ellen, below)

1841 (Find My Past)
Thomas Crook Male 40 1801 Lancashire, England (Farmer)
Ellen Crook Female 30 1811 Lancashire, England
John Crook Male 20 1821 Lancashire, England
Thomas Crook Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England
Margaret Crook Female 15 1826 Lancashire, England
Abram Crook Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England
Ann Crook Female 13 1828 Lancashire, England
Edward Crook Male 11 1830 Lancashire, England
Ralph Crook Male 8 1833 Lancashire, England
Jane Crook Female 6 1835 Lancashire, England
Street Meadow Head
Parish or township Leyland
Town Hoghton
County Lancashire
Registration district Chorley
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 526
Book number 12


edits (perhaps her below?)

Deaths Sep 1843 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
PROCTOR Mary Ann Manchester 20 502


Baptism: 5 Sep 1843 St Andrew, Ancoats, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann Proctor - [Child] of John Proctor & Ellen
Abode: Ancoats
Occupation: Mechanic
Notes: P.
Baptised by: J. S. Cranmer
Register: Baptisms 1831 - 1848, Page 110, Entry 875
Source: LDS Film 559149



(notes, John Proctor was witness, 1841 Hiram Brown (Mechanic) and Sarah Buckley Marriage. They were his witnesses 1840)

(and just out of interest, they may have been 'Mechanics' at same company perhaps. Messrs. John Elce and Co. Machine Makers, Jersey Street)


16 October 1841 - Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser

EXPLOSION OF AN ENGINE BOILER EIGHT LIVES LOST.

(Hiram Brown was killed in above)


Burial: 17 Oct 1841 Rusholme Rd Cemetery, Chorlton-on-Medlock, Lancashire, England
Hiram Brown -
Age: 20yrs
Abode: Manchester
Grave: 4353
Cause of Death: Killed by boiler bursting
Buried by: H H Jones
Register: Burials 1835 - 1845, Entry 34058
Source: Private Transcription

(Baptism of Betsy Brown 1841, Sarah, widow)


http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/J._Elce_and_Co

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Oct 2015 22:03

Margee ...........


thanks. I looked and looked, but couldn't see a Blackburn being given as a birthplace. Of course, I didn't carefully look at that census. DOH!!



I agree, it was probably an error on the part of the enumerator, who made an assumption.


Alternatively, may be her mother went back home to her mother for the birth. Unless you have her birth certificate, you will not know exactly where she was born.

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 Oct 2015 20:40

I think Cane is refering to the 1851 census where it says that Mary Ann was born in Blackburn but since she's living with grandparents in Blackburn it's possibly just a mistake to say that she was born there.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Oct 2015 20:23

which Blackburn birth????



remember Proctor is not an unusual name, and Mary and Ann are also very common names

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

cane

cane Report 24 Oct 2015 09:38

I am really confused as to the Blackburn Birth though, due to the fact that everything I have so far is Manchester St Marys, St Denys,& St George based. Eg this marriage of my 4x great grandfather James Crook to Ellen Lythgo 26th April1801 Manchester St Marys. St Deny & St George...Their Son William Croock (misspelt) is my 3x great grandfather.1st dec 1822.Williams sister is Ellen (1820) who married John Proctor...

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

cane

cane Report 24 Oct 2015 09:21

oh so sorry Maree and Sylvia, ime losing the plot with this one..and thank you both of you xx

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Oct 2015 01:20

snap, Margee :-)

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Oct 2015 01:19

but you have already found Mary Ann on the 1851 Census living with her grandparents?


Or do you think that census is wrong?

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Oct 2015 01:17

But surely that's your Mary Ann that I posted on the 1851 census living with her Crook grandparents?

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

cane

cane Report 23 Oct 2015 22:37

Found this, but don't know what to think,why would she be in yorkshire
Name:
Mary Anna Proctor

Death Age:
6

Birth Year:
abt 1841

Burial Date:
27 Apr 1847

Parish:
Woodhouse, St Mark, Yorkshire, England

Search Photos:
Search for 'Woodhouse, St Mark' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Oct 2015 22:37

Lancashire, England, Quarter Session Records and Petitions, 1648-1908

Name: Ellen Proctor
Event Date: 12 Apr 1842
Event Place: Lancashire, England
Residence Place: Chorley
Quarter Session Place: Lancashire
Record Type: Order Books
Year Range: 1842
Reference Information: Vol. 92


This is NOT your Ellen ............... this is one of the 6 children of Thomas and Elizabeth Proctor ordered removed from the township of Chorley

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Oct 2015 22:33

However ............


you do have to remember that John Proctor is not exactly a rare name in Lancashire :-)

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Oct 2015 22:31

There is also this ...........


Lancashire, England, Quarter Session Records and Petitions, 1648-1908

Name: John Proctor
Event Date: 1847
Event Place: Lancashire, England
Quarter Session Place: Lancashire
Record Type: Order Books
Year Range: 1847
Reference Information: RB.54


It's the order sending him to prison for 2 Calendar Months

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Oct 2015 22:22

John

not known if he was Married or Single
Age 25
County Sessions, Salford
Charge:- Larceny by Servant
Sentence:- 2 Months

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Oct 2015 22:18

Hers is very faint and hard to read, ............

It looks like she was charged with Larceny at Manchester and Salford Assizes

Sentence:- 3 months

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

cane

cane Report 23 Oct 2015 21:56

And this one same as
Name:
John Proctor

Age:
25

Estimated birth year:
abt 1822

Date of Trial:
1 Mar 1847

Trial Year:
1847

Location of Trial:
Lancashire, England

Sentence:
Imprisonment

Crime:
See Image

Date of Execution or Release:
See Image
:-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

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