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No ArgyllGran Joseph was John William's father ' I righted that error Sorry .John William Bean 1869-1942 & Loretta Butterill 1871-1951 my Grandfather& G/mother so Joseph must by my Great grandfather

Shiela, you say that you 'think' Annies parents were Mathew and Helen. To be absolutely sure you really should start by buying a copy of her marriage certificate to Joseph.
This should give you at least her father's name and his occupation which could help find, or confirm information already found.
If it states that her father was Mathew then it would also be helpful to know what his address was and also his occupation to see if we can find him with more certainty on the census records.

If you look again at the baptism records you will see that they were Catholic so the names are actually in Latin.

Sheila -

My post just before your last one points out that there were two John William Beans born in 1869.
One born in Wakefield (son of William and Eliza) and one in York (son of Joseph & Annie).

I hope you are right Kettlestrings is a wonderful name I think I'll need a cuppa while I sort the Beans out . The Pattison's seem ok but time will tell Thanks again

The John William who married Loretta was born in Pontefract and his parents were William and Eliza.

You are right about but I will "go "for Joseph & Annie as I remember as a child I had an Uncle who was
called Uncle Stanley Pat

If John & Loretta were your grandparents, John's father was William, not Joseph.


This is John William who was son of Joseph and Annie.

1871 already posted.

John W. Bean
in the 1881 England Census
Name: John W. Bean
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Joseph Bean
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: York St Maurice
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 22 Orchard Street
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: York
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4722
Folio: 118
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Bean 48
Frederick W. Bean 22
Helen Bean 19
Maria E. Bean 14
John W. Bean 12
Edward Bean 5


John W Bean

in the 1891 England Census
Name: John W Bean
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: St Maurice
Ecclesiastical parish: St Maurice
Town: York
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: York
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3891
Folio: 70
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
John W Bean 22 - gas fitter and (something) repairer
Maria E Bean 24 - sister
Edward Bean 15 - brother

Maria Elizabeth Bean

in the England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Maria Elizabeth Bean
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 10 Jun 1866
Christening Place: York, Yorkshire, England
Father's name: Joseph Bean
Mother's name: Ann

Thanks, On a light note what a bummer I quite liked the thought of having a Kettlestring in my family tree , but then the true must out . I can't thank you enough for putting me right . I'll Take a hard copy and have a very good read


Thanks again Argyllgran and all who helped me <3

Sheila, if you're making a copy, please note that I've corrected my 22:35 post, as I'd mistakenly put in a Wakefield birth instead of the Pontefract one.

(In case you made your copy before I did that.)

Thanks I'll make the change xox

(Father as William, was on below 'Thread')

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1348537

Chris :)


Tenerife Sun Report 15 Jan 2015 16:00

his parents marriage

NAME: John William Bean
BIRTH YEAR: abt 1869
AGE: 21
MARRIAGE OR BANN DATE: 23 Mar 1890
PARISH: Woodhouse, St Mark
FATHER'S NAME: William Bean
SPOUSE'S NAME: Loretta Butterill
SPOUSE'S FATHER'S NAME: John Butterill

Thank you Chris that IS my grandfather & G mother . x