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Teekay
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4 Nov 2015 17:10 |
Hi, I am new to this and trying to find info on my great grandfather Alexander Langley born in 1873/4 in West Ham. He married Selina Elizabeth Blayney in 1893 (M. cert 1c 367) and he died in Sept 1901 aged 28 (death cert vol 4a page 220, line 200). I have just ordered the death cert, but now feel that this isn't gong to help me trace his parents. I cannot locate a Birth or Baptism record for him and am wondering how I will be able to go back further without it and knowing who is parents/siblings were. I have tried variations of the Christian name...Alex etc, but no luck. If anyone can help or advise me on alternative steps then I would be very grateful indeed. Thanking you in advance, Trish Zachariah :-S
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MargaretM
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4 Nov 2015 17:22 |
Alexander Langley
in the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Record Image View
Name: Alexander Langley Estimated birth year: abt 1872 Age: 21 Spouse: Selina Elizabeth Blayney Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 1 Oct 1893 Parish: St James the Less, Bethnal Green Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Alexander Langley Spouse Father: Richard Jonah Blayney Register Type: Parish Register
He's a boot finisher, 3 Gloucester St., his father a slipper maker.
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malyon
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4 Nov 2015 17:23 |
Alexander Langley England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 birth: 1873 death: 1901 West Ham, Essex, England
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malyon
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4 Nov 2015 17:26 |
COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE Attach to Family Tree Alexander Langley England and Wales Census, 1901 Name Alexander Langley Event Type Census Event Date 31 Mar 1901 Event Place West Ham, Essex, England County Essex Civil Parish West Ham Ecclesiastical Parish St James Sub-District Forest Gate Registration District West Ham Residence Note Albert Road Gender Male Age 27 Occupation TRAM CONDUCTOR Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1874 Birthplace Hackney, London Schedule Type 142 Page Number 21 HOUSEHOLD
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Alexander Langley Head M 27 Hackney, London Selina E Langley Wife F 28 Bethnal Green, London Alex F Langley Son M 7 Bethnal Green, London George H Langley Son M 5 Bethnal Green, London Lena L Langley Daughter F 3 Bethnal Green, London Charles R Langley Son M 0 Leytonstone, Essex
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Teekay
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4 Nov 2015 17:38 |
Thank you sooo very much to the three kind people that have replied so quickly. I had picked up the death and marriage, but I still really need to find his birth cert I think. Given that his father was also Alexander, but I have no idea of his DOB, how would I even begin to search for him? Thanks again for support and advice. Trish
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malyon
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4 Nov 2015 17:39 |
this could be his father
Go To: Search Results COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE Attach to Family Tree Alexander Langley England and Wales Census, 1871 Name Alexander Langley Event Type Census Event Date 1871 Event Place St Matthew Bethnal Green, London, Middlesex, England Enumeration District 21 Gender Male Age 25 Marital Status Married Occupation Cordwainer Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1846 Birthplace Spitalfields, Middlesex Entry Number 15 Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/0480/0167 HOUSEHOLD
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Alexander Langley Head M 25 Spitalfields, Middlesex Sophia Langley Wife F 24 Bash, Gloucestershire John Langley Son M 2 Bristol, Gloucestershire
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malyon
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4 Nov 2015 17:43 |
Alexander Langley England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name Alexander Langley Event Type Death Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration Year 1900 Registration District Bethnal Green County London Event Place Bethnal Green, London, England Age (available after 1866) 54 Birth Year (Estimated) 1846 Volume 1C Page 103 Line Number 340
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greyghost
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4 Nov 2015 17:56 |
Given his stated Place of birth as Hackney on the 1901 census, I wonder about this as his family - so born after John and before Elizabeth who was also born Hackney. Alexander is not there but there is the Alexander printed out below away at school - Place of birth given as Barnet (about 10 miles from Hackney - the family may have been there when he was born but in late life he called Hackney home).
John b Bristol fits both this census and the 1871 posted by Malyon , looks as though Sophia may have died and Alexander Snr remarried to Mary Ann?
Alexander Seniors occupation is Cordwainer (shoemaker)
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 8, Mount Street, Bethnal Green, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Alexander Langley Head Married Male 37 1844 Cordwainer Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Maryann Langley Wife Married Female 35 1846 Sewer (Seamstress) Spitalfields, Middlesex, England John Langley Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Elizabeth Langley Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Hackney, Middlesex, England Abraham Langley Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Hackney, Middlesex, England
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First name(s) Alex Last name Langley Relationship Scholar Marital status Single Gender Male Age 9 Birth year 1872 Occupation Scholar Birth town New Barnet Birth town as transcribed NEW BARNET Birth county Middlesex Birth county as transcribed MIDDLESEX Birth place England House name Christs Hospital Hertford School Street - Town - Parish Hertford St John County Hertfordshire Country England Registration district Hertford Archive reference RG11 Piece number 1425 Folio 108 Page 1
EDIT - see post 3 below showing this Alexander in 1891
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MargaretM
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4 Nov 2015 17:59 |
Possible in 1881?
Alex Langley
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Name: Alex Langley Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1872 Relationship to Head: Scholar Gender: Male Where born: New Barnet, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Hertford St John County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: "Christs Hospital Hertford School" Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Hertford ED, institution, or vessel: Chnsts Hospital Hereford School for Boys and Girls Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1425 Folio: 114 Page Number: 13
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Chris in Sussex
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4 Nov 2015 18:04 |
You may find information regarding pupils at the school
http://www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/data/education/hertford-christs-hospital.htm
Note the contact details in the yellow box.
Chris
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greyghost
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4 Nov 2015 18:06 |
This looks like the Alexander of 1881
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Kings Henrys Road, Hampstead, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Danheek J Langley Head Married Male 47 1844 Merchants Clerk Scotland Agnes Langley Wife Married Female 48 1843 - Scotland Elizabeth Langley Daughter Single Female 23 1868 - Old Ford, Middlesex, England Alexander Langley Son Single Male 19 1872 Scholar Pembroke College New Barnet, Hertfordshire, England Kate Langley Daughter Single Female 11 1880 Scholar New Barnet, Hertfordshire, England Florence C Daris Servant Single Female 17 1874 Servant General St Pancras, Middlesex, England
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Teekay
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4 Nov 2015 18:15 |
Thanks again to you all, I never expected even one reply, yet alone all this immediate help. I had found the Alex, aged 9 school census record, but had no link/evidence. It now appears that it's a different Langley tree. Thanks Greyghost for your research and input. Looks like a dead end on that front. But where, oh where is my Great grandfather Alexander? :-S
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malyon
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4 Nov 2015 18:18 |
could not find a marriage for alexander and Sophia as in 1871 census perhaps they never married
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Teekay
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4 Nov 2015 18:18 |
Thanks Chris in Sussex for the school link. I would never have found that. Had it been the right Alex, I would be a step further on now. :0)
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Teekay
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4 Nov 2015 18:24 |
Thanks Malyon, I am still not sure if I am right to follow Alexander and Sophia or Alexander and Maryann, because neither make reference to Alexander Junior (born 1873/4). But everyone's help is greatly appreciated.
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malyon
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4 Nov 2015 18:25 |
what do you mean found your gt.grandfather in census with selina his wife are you still looking for his birth
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Teekay
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4 Nov 2015 18:35 |
Sorry Malyon, yes I have found Alexander and Selina and have a lot of family info on them, but not further back. I thought that I needed to find his birth record so that I can get info on my Gt Gt grandfather Alexander and family.
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malyon
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4 Nov 2015 19:59 |
wonder if this could be the father of alexander the one in 1881 census i cant see a birth in bdm in 1844
Alexander Langlee England and Wales Census, 1851 Name Alexander Langlee Age 8 Gender M Birthplace Demorara British Subjects Relationship to Head of Household Son Schedule Type Institution
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greyghost
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4 Nov 2015 20:58 |
From Malyons find above - Amongst others listed - showing on original
Charles Langlee Head age 40 Chelsea Pensioner (Servant) b Doddington, Lincoln Mary Langlee Wife age 45 b Skipton, Yorks Alexander Langlee son age 8 b Demerera (also says South America on transcript)
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Chris Ho :)
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5 Nov 2015 07:27 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 (Ancestry) Name: Elizabeth Longley Estimated birth year: abt 1869 Age: 22 Spouse: Albert Newton Spouse Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 20 Jul 1891 Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Alexander Longley (Shoe Maker) Spouse Father: William Newton Register Type: Parish Register (Residence at Time for both, Bethnal Green)
Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------- Langley Elizabeth Bethnal Green 1c 357 Newton Albert Bethnal Green 1c 357
Chris :)
(if below, 1881 posted earlier)
1891 (Find My Past) Alexander Laugley Head Married Male 47 1844 Shoe Maker Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Mary A Laugley Wife Married Female 47 1844 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Albert G Laugley Son Single Male 19 1872 Shoe Finisher Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Street Kay Street Parish Shoreditch County London Registration district Shoreditch Archive reference RG12 Piece number 253 Folio 150 Page 27
1871 (Find My Past) Alexander Langley Head - Male 25 1846 - Middlesex Spitalfields, England (Cordwainer) Sophia Langley Wife - Female 24 1847 - Gloucestershire Bath, England John Langley Son - Male 2 1869 - Gloucestershire Bristol, England Street Emma Street Parish St Matthew Bethnal Green County London, Middlesex Registration district Bethnal Green Archive reference RG10 Piece number 480 Folio 92 Page 42
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