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1841 census ... unfortunately to see what it really says you have to pay at scotlandspeople


Name: Hector Menro
Age: 7weeks
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Gender: Male
Where born: England

Name: Johan Menro
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Dalkeith
County: Midlothian
Address: Wicket

Margt Imart 60
Elisabeth Imart 50
Margaret Reed 10
Hector Menro 61 born Midlothian, Scotland
Hector Menro Mclean 6
> Hector Menro 7weeks
> Johan Menro 20

no husband present for her ... she may have been visiting (what a voyage with an infant) or have left her husband and relocated to Scotland permanently

given that the marriage to Munro was in the Plymouth area the husband was very likely a seaman and that is his family in Scotland

one might imagine that he died and the widowed Joanna then married Walker

right ..............

1851 Scotland census

Name: Hector Munro
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relationship: Stepson
Mother: Joanna Walker
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Civil Parish: Linlithgow
County: West Lothian
Address: Lion Well Wynd
Occupation: Apprentice

Richard Walker 30 born Crawford Parish, lanarksh, journeyman shoemaker
Joanna Walker 30 born Leadhills, ireland
Hector Munro 10
Jean Walker 8
Agnes Walker 1
Mary Ann Sinclair 19 visitor


now we know what you know, finally

so you are looking for Joanna's ancestors it seems

and the marriage in Stoke Damerel still seems likely

well unfortunately the Hector born in Devon in 1945 is not a son of Joanna

this is the household in 1851, name corrected by an Ancestry user (in a later year Ancestry has it as 'Munes')


Name: Hector B Murrer
[Hector Bruce Munro]
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's name: Charles A Murrer
Mother's name: Lucy E Murrer
Gender: Male
Where born: Barnstaple, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Bishops Tawton
County/Island: Devon
Registration district: Barnstaple
Charles A Murrer 64
Lucy E Murrer 43
Charlotte M Murrer 23
George L Murrer 20
Charles A Murrer 17
Kellesley H Murrer 13
Augusta G Murrer 9
Hector B Murrer 5
Mary Rowteley 21



so Sylann can you tell us what you actually know about someone, and what you are trying to find out?

do you *know* that Joanna Gilbert or Hector Munro is your ancestor?


these are the two Hector Munro/Monro births registered in England before 1845 ... not all births were registered

Births Sep 1839
Munro Hector William Strand 1 301
Births Mar 1842
Monro Hector Bethnal Gn 2 69

Sylann the marriage to Joanna "Gilbert or Munro" could because be she was born Gilbert and married Munro ... it would seem very likely to be the same person since the coincidence of names would seem rather extreme otherwise ... but not impossible, for that reason (birth and married surnames) or some other

the full 1861 household in Manchester is

Johanna Walker 40
Thomas Walker 20 son born Ireland
Sarah Hill 58 visitor born Ireland

so I'm not sure that is the right Johanna Walker, in fact I would think it isn't since she has a son aged 20 named Walker and born in Ireland


the 1840 marriage and 1845 birth seem to be consistent with your info - ?

is it Hector who is your relation, and if so what else do you know about him - where did he live, marry, die ... ?

Johanna Walker
England and Wales Census, 1861
Name Johanna Walker
County Lancashire
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Sub-District 4 Market Street
Parish Manchester
Ecclesiastical Parish Collegiate
Registration District Manchester
Age 40
Gender Female
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birthplace Ireland
Schedule Type Household

Thank you

But I think I've got something wrong with the name think it could be a 2/3 barrel name
I did see that marriage

Joanna Gilbert Or Munro
mentioned in the record of Richard Walker and Joanna Gilbert Or Munro
Name Richard Walker
Spouse's Name Joanna Gilbert Or Munro
Event Date 10 Dec 1848
Event Place Linlithgow,West Lothian,Scotland
Father's Name Thomas Walker
Spouse's Father's Name James Gilbert

Births Dec 1845 (>99%)
Munro Hector Bruce Barnstaple 10 25

Marriages Mar 1840
MUNRO John Stoke Damerel 9 508
GILBERT Joannah Stoke Damerel 9 508

Help is needed please

I have a Joanna Gilbert born 1821c in county Cork her father is James Gilbert

I think she married someone called Munro as she had a son in 1840c born England called Hector Munro,

She remarried a Richard Walker in Linlithgow Scotland in 1848 on the marriage certificate scotlandspeople it has her name as Joanna Gilbert or Munro
this with sons name and fathers name is how I've thought she married a Munro in Ireland or England

If some one can through any light on this it would help

Thank you