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Ancestors of Hector Reid

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Katrina

Katrina Report 28 Nov 2015 10:28

Illegitimate son of father John Reid and mother Sally Rhind b 7/1/1837 baptised in Darbreigh, Forfarshire, Scotland.
John married Isabella Custard and had at least two children: Jane (30/7/1838) and Eliza ( 11/12/1839). I have tree almost complete from this point on - Hector went to NZ and onto Australia

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Gee

Gee Report 28 Nov 2015 10:31

Hi Katrina

If you have a comprehensive tree, what is it your are looking for please?

Looks like they had more children


1851
Name:John Reid

Age:45

Estimated birth year:abt 1806

Relationship:Head

Spouse:Isabella Reid

Gender:Male

Where born:Rathven, banff

Parish Number:164

Civil Parish:Rathven

County:Banffshire

Address:Darbriech

Occupation:Farm Of 65 Acres Employing 3 Labourers

ED:15
Page:8
Household schedule number:33
LINE:20
Roll:CSSCT1851_36


John Reid 45
Isabella Reid 43
Hector Reid 14
Jane Reid 12
Elisabeth Reid 11
John Reid 9
Isabella Reid 8
James Reid 5
Ann Reid 5
Charles Reid 3
Elspeth Reid 1
Alex Rennie 25
John Macbain 18
Jane Cruickshank 17
Margaret Mc Curach 15

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Nov 2015 10:44

Is this the family you refer to - in Banffshire by 1841

Are you wanting to go further back?

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Easter Darbriegh, Rathven, Banffshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
John Reid Male 30 1811 Banffshire, Scotland
Isabella Reid Female 30 1811 Scotland
Hector Reid Male 4 1837 Banffshire, Scotland
Jane Reid Female 2 1839 Banffshire, Scotland
Eliza Reid Female 1 1840 Banffshire, Scotland
John Reid Male 0 1841 Banffshire, Scotland
Elizabeth Downie Female 20 1821 Banffshire, Scotland
Jessey Downie Female 15 1826 Banffshire, Scotland

Gee

Gee Report 28 Nov 2015 10:51


Name:Isabella Reid
Gender:Female
Birth Date:6 Aug 1843
Baptism Date:3 Sep 1843
Baptism Place:Rathven,Banff,Scotland
Father:John Reid
Mother:Isabella Custar

FHL Film Number:991193


Name:Charles Reid
Gender:Male
Birth Date:29 Sep 1847
Baptism Date:5 Dec 1847
Baptism Place:Rathven,Banff,Scotland
Father:John Reid
Mother:Isabella Custar

FHL Film Number:991193


Name:Elspet Reid
Gender:Female
Birth Date:10 Aug 1849
Baptism Date:Aug 1849
Baptism Place:Rathven,Banff,Scotland
Father:John Reid
Mother:Isabella Custar

FHL Film Number:991193


Name:James Reid
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:9 Jul 1845
Baptism Place:Rathven,Banff,Scotland
Father:John Reid
Mother:Isabella Custar

FHL Film Number:991193

Name:John Reid
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:19 Apr 1841
Baptism Place:Rathven,Banff,Scotland
Father:John Reid
Mother:Isabell Custard

FHL Film Number:991193


Ann Reid
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:9 Jul 1845
Baptism Place:Rathven,Banff,Scotland
Father:John Reid
Mother:Isabella Custar

FHL Film Number:991193

I've not added the baptisms of Jane & Eliza as you already have those details


greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Nov 2015 10:57

Possible parents for John Reid baptised Rathven where 1851 census indicates he was born. If 1806 for year of birth is correct then parents could be James Reid and Jean Copland.

These are available on
https://familysearch.org/search

John Reid
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 22 July 1806 RATHVEN, BANFF, SCOTLAND
father: James Reid
mother: Jean Copland

John Reid
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 9 June 1809 RATHVEN, BANFF, SCOTLAND
father: William Reid
mother: Isabel Murray

John Reid
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 2 June 1810 RATHVEN, BANFF, SCOTLAND
father: John Reid
mother: Margaret Geddes
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John Reid
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 19 September 1813 RATHVEN, BANFF, SCOTLAND
father: Alexander Reid
mother: Lilly Ross

John Reid
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 6 November 1814
christening: 10 November 1814 RATHVEN, BANFF, SCOTLAND
father: Alexander Reid
mother: Helen Cowie

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Nov 2015 10:59

if correct parents - their marriage

James Reid
mentioned in the record of James Reid and Jean Copland

Name James Reid
Spouse's Name Jean Copland
Event Date 31 Aug 1805
Event Place Rathven,Banff,Scotland

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Nov 2015 11:01

Hector's baptism shows in Rathven (not Forfarshire)

Name Hector Reid
Gender Male
Christening Date 07 Jan 1837
Christening Place RATHVEN,BANFF,SCOTLAND
Father's Name John Reid
Mother's Name Sally Rhind
CITING THIS RECORD

"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY6X-LGD : accessed 28 November 2015), Sally Rhind in entry for Hector Reid, 07 Jan 1837; citing RATHVEN,BANFF,SCOTLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 991,193.

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Nov 2015 11:04


?? Sarah Rhind

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Nether Birybads, Rathven, Banffshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Margt Rhind Female 35 1806 Banffshire, Scotland
Sarah Rhind Female 31 1810 Banffshire, Scotland
Elisabeth Reid Female 3 1838 Banffshire, Scotland
Jane Craig Female 65 1776 Banffshire, Scotland

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 28 Nov 2015 11:41

Welcome to the Community boards Katrina.


(I'll let Katrina know how to find her replies) :-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Nov 2015 15:27

ScotlandsPeople has no birth for a Sally or Sarah Rhind (or variant spelling) anywhere in Scotland 1800-1825

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Nov 2015 15:35

Possibly Sally's later marriage - or at least, two dates on which banns were read:

23/10/1845 RHIND SALLY ALEXR. LESLIE/ F RATHVEN /BANFF 164/00 0030 0313

17/11/1845 RHIND SALLY ALEXANDER LESLIE/ F KEITH /BANFF 159/00 0050 0557

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Nov 2015 15:41

From FS - I don't see this on Ancestry. This is the same Sarah as that in 1841 posted by Greyghost:


Sarah Rhind
Scotland Census, 1851
Name Sarah Rhind
Event Type Census
Event Date 1851
Gender Female
Age 41
Birthplace Banffshire
Registration District Keith
County Banffshire
Birth Year (Estimated) 1810

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Nov 2015 15:43

This might be the same record on Ancestry, with surname mistranscribed.

But if so, she must be a different woman from the one who married Alexander Leslie:

Sarah Rheude
in the 1851 Scotland Census

Name: Sarah Rheude
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1810
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsoy, banffshire
Parish Number: 159
Civil Parish: Keith
Town: Keith
County: Banffshire
Address: Mid Street
Occupation: Mason's Servant
ED: 2
Page: 27
Household schedule number: 132
LINE: 11
Roll: CSSCT1851_35

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Nov 2015 15:46

Ancestry's version of the 1841 already posted by Greyghost:

Sarah Rhead

in the 1841 Scotland Census
Name: Sarah Rhead
[Sarah Rhind]
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1810
Gender: Female
Where born: Banffshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Rathven
County: Banffshire
Address: Nether Birryboels
Occupation: Spinster
Parish Number: 152
Household Members:
Name Age
Margt Rhead 35
Sarah Rhead 31
Elizabeth Reid 3
Jane Craig 65
Geo McCunach 35
Jane McCunach 40
Margaret McCunach 10
Jane Marrion 3

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Nov 2015 17:39

The 1851 as posted by ArgyllGran - Sally can be a form of Sarah - but she is said to be widowed!!

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mid Street, Keith, Banffshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Gillies Head Unmarried Male 44 1807 Mason Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
George Gillies Brother Unmarried Male 39 1812 Farm Labourer Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
David Gillies Brother Unmarried Male 39 1812 Carpenter Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Margaret Gillies Mother Widow Female 84 1767 Mason's Mother Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
Sarah Rhind Servant Widow Female 41 1810 Mason's Servant Portsoy, Banffshire, Scotland
________________________________________

And Margaret Rhind from that 1841 census (niece Elizabeth Reid still with her)

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Buinach, Rathven, Enzie, Banffshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Margaret Rhind Head Unmarried Female 47 1804 Spinner Rathven, Banffshire, Scotland
Elesabeth Reid Niece Unmarried Female 13 1838 - Rathven, Banffshire, Scotland

Did John Reid father another child of Sally's or is the Reid surname a coincidence. She is described as niece ????

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Nov 2015 19:45

County Banffshire
Place Keith
Church name Parish Church
Register type
Marriage date 17 Nov 1845
Groom forename Alexander
Groom surname LESLIE
Groom parish Keith
Bride forename Sally
Bride surname RHIND
Bride parish Rathven


Baptism
County Banffshire
Place Rathven
Church name Rathven
Register type
Baptism date 7 Jan 1837
Person forename Hector
Person sex M
Person abode Darbreigh
Father forename John
Father surname REID
Mother forename Sally
Mother surname RHIND
Notes Wit: Rev'd Mr Gardiner & Eliza. Innes


(no idea on anything!, but above on below)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Nov 2015 22:03

???

Alexander Leslie's death on SP - so the widowed Sarah in 1851 is probably the right person, using her maiden name.

05/10/1847 LESLIE ALEXANDER ----- M KEITH /BANFF 159/00 0050 0687

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Nov 2015 22:08

You're correct about Elizabeth Reid, greyghost.


Reference No.:
NM209813
Surname:
REID
Forename(s):
ELIZABETH
Maiden Name:
REID
Occupation:

Date of Birth:
28 JAN 1838
Place of Birth:
BOGSHALLOCH RATHVEN
Father's Name:
JOHN REID BOGSHALLOCH
Mother's Name:
SARAH RHIND



Info for Sarah.


Reference No.:
NM170640
Surname:
LESLIE
Forename(s):
SARAH
Maiden Name:
RHIND
Occupation:

Date of Birth:

Place of Birth:

Father's Name:
ALEXANDER RHIND
Mother's Name:
JANET MCCURACH
Biography:


Marriage Details
Spouse's Name:
ALEXANDER LESLIE
Date of Marriage:
18 NOV 1845
Place of Marriage:
RATHVEN

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 Nov 2015 22:12

Reference No.:
NM163421
Surname:
REID
Forename(s):
JOHN
Maiden Name:

Occupation:
FARMER
Date of Birth:
c. 1818
Place of Birth:

Father's Name:
JAMES REID FARMER
Mother's Name:
JANE COPLAND
Biography:
LIVED AT BUCKIE & AUCHRASKILL CAITHNESS

Marriage Details
Spouse's Name:
ISABELLA CUSTER
Date of Marriage:
09 SEP 1837
Place of Marriage:
RATHVEN
Married by:

Marriage Narrative:
PARENTS OF ISABELLA

Death Details
Date of Death:
JUL 1878
Age:
C. 60
Headstone Ref:

Place of Death:
BUCKIE

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Nov 2015 22:14

The McCunach's in Ancestry's 1841 must be maternal relatives, then.