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Julie57
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4 Dec 2015 12:39 |
I am new to this and this is my first post. My great grandmother was Gertrude Lizzie Harper and I know she lived in London after having her son Arthur in 1911. I am trying to find who her parents were. Anyone else tracing these people?
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MargaretM
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4 Dec 2015 12:53 |
There's also a Gertrude Harper aged 21 here. She's single,a general servant. Born Berks, New (something?)
Arthur Jas Harper
in the 1911 England Census Record Image View
Name: Arthur Jas Harper Age in 1911: 0 Estimated birth year: abt 1911 Relation to Head: Inmate Gender: Male Birth Place: St James Civil Parish: St Anne within the Liberty of Westminster Search Photos: Search for 'St Anne within the Liberty of Westminster' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Westminster Union Workhouse, 49 Poland St, Oxford St W Marital Status: Minor Occupation: MINOR Registration district: Westminster Registration District Number: 6 Sub-registration district: St James and St Anne ED, institution, or vessel: 20-23 Piece: 514
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Sylvia
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4 Dec 2015 13:06 |
FoRecord Image VIEW Add alternate information Report issue Name: Gertrude Lizzie Harper Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 21 Mar 1897 Father's name: Edwin Harper Mother's name: Hanna Harper Parish or Poor Law Union: Haverstock Hill St Andrew Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Registers
Found this one so far
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malyon
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4 Dec 2015 13:10 |
this one would be born about 1890 in berkshire mentioned in the 1911 census posted above
Name Gertrude Lizzie Harper Event Type Census Event Date 1891 County Berkshire Parish Speen Ecclesiastical Parish ST JOHN STOCKCROSS Registration District Newbury Residence Note Stockcross Road Gender Female Age 1 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Birth Year (Estimated) 1890 Birthplace Berkshire, England Page Number 3 Registration Number RG12 Piece/Folio 970/ 66 HOUSEHOLD
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Jesse Harper Head M 27 Berkshire, England Kate Prudence Harper Wife F 22 Berkshire, England William Geo Harper Son M 2 Berkshire, England Gertrude Lizzie Harper Daughter F 1 Berkshire, England Elizabeth Harper Mother F 67 Berkshire, England
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4 Dec 2015 13:11 |
Who does she name as her father on her MC to Harry?
When did she die? Is this relevant?
Name: Gertrude Giddy Birth Date: abt 1895 Date of Registration: Dec 1967 Age at Death: 72 Registration district: St Pancras Inferred County: London Volume: 5d Page: 1069
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malyon
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4 Dec 2015 13:15 |
Gertrude Lizzie Harper England and Wales Birth Registration Index Name Gertrude Lizzie Harper Event Type Birth Registration Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration Year 1890 Registration District Newbury County Berkshire Event Place Newbury, Berkshire, England Volume 2C Page 229 Line Number 18
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Sylvia
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4 Dec 2015 13:20 |
Ah the one I posted at 13.06 would only make her 14 in 1911 so not her.
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MargaretM
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4 Dec 2015 13:45 |
A tree on Ancestry says that she's the daughter of Jesse Harper and Kate Prudence, It shows 7 siblings but no spouse or children. It says that Jesse was the son of George Harper and Elizabeth Wernham and he had 6 siblings.
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PricklyHolly
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4 Dec 2015 13:57 |
Hi Julie and welcome to GR.
Gertrude Harper in the 1911 England Census Name:Gertrude Harper Age in 1911:21 Estimated birth year:abt 1890 Relation to Head:Inmate Gender:Female Birth Place:Newbury, Berkshire, England Civil Parish:St Anne within the Liberty of Westminster County/Island:London Country:England Street address:Westminster Union Workhouse, 49 Poland St, Oxford St W Marital Status:Single Occupation:GENERAL SERVANT Registration district:Westminster
With son Arthur Jas .......14 days old
Births Jun 1911 (>99%) Harper Arthur J Westminster 1a 409
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PricklyHolly
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4 Dec 2015 14:00 |
Gertrude Harper in the 1901 England Census Name:Gertrude Harper Age:19 Estimated birth year:abt 1882 Relation to Head:Daughter Gender:Female Father:Jesse Harper Mother:Kate P Harper Birth Place:Stockcross, Berkshire, England Civil Parish:Speen Ecclesiastical parish:St John Town:Stockcross County/Island:Berkshire Country:England Registration district:Newbury Sub-registration district:Speen
Household Members:
Jesse Harper 33 Kate P Harper 32 William Harper 11 Gertrude Harper 19 >>>>>Her age is 10 on the image. Albert Harper 9 Alice Harper 8 Emily Harper 4 Arthur Harper 3 >>>>( Further down you will see that Arthur is with Kate's mother in 1911.) Alfred Harper 4/12
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PricklyHolly
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4 Dec 2015 14:07 |
Gertrude Lizzie Harper in the 1891 England Census Name:Gertrude Lizzie Harper Age:1 Estimated birth year:abt 1890 Relation:Daughter Father's name:Jesse Harper Mother's name:Kate Prudence Harper Gender:Female Where born:Stockcross, Berkshire, England Civil Parish:Speen Ecclesiastical parish: Stockhouse St Johns
Town:Stockcross County/Island: Berkshire
Country:England Registration district:Newbury
Household Members:
Jesse Harper 27 Kate Prudence Harper 22 Boxford Berkshire William Geo Harper 2 Gertrude Lizzie Harper 1 Elizabeth Harper 67 (Mother)
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PricklyHolly
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4 Dec 2015 14:09 |
Marriages Mar 1889 (>99%) Harper Jesse Newbury 2c 299 WAYTE Kate Prudence Newbury 2c 299
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PricklyHolly
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4 Dec 2015 14:14 |
Jesse Harper in the 1911 England Census Name:Jesse Harper Age in 1911: 47 Estimated birth year:abt 1864 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Birth Place:Boxford, Berkshire, England Civil Parish:Speen County/Island:Berkshire Country:England Street address:Marsh Benham Nr Newbury, Berkshire Marital Status:Widower Occupation:General Labourer Registration district:Newbury
Household Members:
Jesse Harper 47 Alice Harper 18 Emily Harper 14 Elfred Harper 11 Mable Harper 7 Harry Harper 6 Walter Charles Harper 4
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PricklyHolly
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4 Dec 2015 14:15 |
Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%) Harper Kate Prudence 40 Newbury 2c 138
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PricklyHolly
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4 Dec 2015 14:26 |
To find out if any other members have this family in their tree...
Click on "Search" above...and then click on "Search all Members Trees" fron the drop down menu.
If you find any connections, you can click on "Find out More" and you will then be able to contact the tree owner/owners,
Prickles.;o)
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LondonBelle
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4 Dec 2015 14:27 |
Any idea when and where Gertrude died?
Name: Gertrude Giddy Birth Date: abt 1895 Date of Registration: Dec 1967 Age at Death: 72 Registration district: St Pancras Inferred County: London Volume: 5d Page: 1069
Name: Harry S Giddy Birth Date: abt 1890 Date of Registration: Dec 1951 Age at Death: 61 Registration district: Pancras Inferred County: London Volume: 5d Page: 405
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PricklyHolly
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4 Dec 2015 14:34 |
Gertrude Lizzie Giddy in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name:Gertrude Lizzie Giddy Year:1939 County or Borough:Camden Ward or Division/Constituency:St Pancras North 80 Bartholomew Road with........Harry Stanley Giddy
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LondonBelle
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4 Dec 2015 14:36 |
Baptism of Arthur
Name: Arthur James Harper Birth Date: 20 Mar 1911 Baptism Date: 6 May 1911 Archive Provided Parish: Barnes, St Mary Parish as it Appears: Barnes Father: Harper Mother: Gertrude Lizzie Harper No Father Address 15 Beverley Gardens, Barnes
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I have found 15 Beverley Gardens in the 1911 Census and it appears to be a Convalescent Home comprising of five patients, all young women, and three babies who are the illegimate children of the patients.
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LondonBelle
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4 Dec 2015 14:48 |
Workhouse documents
Name: Gertrude Harper Born: 1890 Occupation: Servant Admission 20 Mar 1911 Discharge 10 Apr 1911 Address of nearest known relative or friend: Father. Marsh Benham, Newbury
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PricklyHolly
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4 Dec 2015 15:26 |
This is complicated.
I am going to go back.......and work forward as I think it will make more sense to you that way.
Kate's birth registration....
Kate Prudence Wait in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name:Kate Prudence Wait Registration Year:1868 Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district:Newbury Inferred County:Berkshire Volume:2c Page:228
On the 1871 census, she appears as Catherine "G?" Waite.......Step Daughter Name:Catharine G Waite Age:2 Estimated birth year:abt 1869 Relation:Stepdaughter Mother's name:Martha Dreweatt Gender:Female Where born:Boxford, Berkshire, England Civil Parish:Boxford County/Island:Berkshire Country:England Registration district:Newbury Sub-registration district:Speen
Household Members:
Henry I Dreweatt 26 Martha Dreweatt 27 Catharine G Waite 2
Kate was obviously born out of wedlock because her mother didn't marry until 1870 Unless of course Martha had been married before?
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Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%) King Martha Newbury 2c 460 WAITE Charles Newbury 2c 460
Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%) DREWETT Henry John Newbury 2c 465 WAITE Martha Newbury 2c 465
Kate P . Waite in the 1881 England Census Name:Kate P . Waite Age:12 Estimated birth year:abt 1869 Relationship to Head:Daughter Father:Henry J. Drewett Mother:Martha Drewett Gender:Female Where born:Boxford, Berkshire, England Civil Parish:Boxford County/Island:Berkshire Country:England Street address:5 Hunts Green
Household Members
Henry J. Drewett 36 Martha Drewett 37 Kate P. Waite 12 Sarah B. Drewett 9 Henry E. Drewett 3 Martha Drewett
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