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I am new to this and this is my first post. My great grandmother was Gertrude Lizzie Harper and I know she lived in London after having her son Arthur in 1911. I am trying to find who her parents were. Anyone else tracing these people?

There's also a Gertrude Harper aged 21 here. She's single,a general servant. Born Berks, New (something?)

Arthur Jas Harper

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Arthur Jas Harper
Age in 1911: 0
Estimated birth year: abt 1911
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St James
Civil Parish: St Anne within the Liberty of Westminster
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County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: Westminster Union Workhouse, 49 Poland St, Oxford St W
Marital Status: Minor
Occupation: MINOR
Registration district: Westminster
Registration District Number: 6
Sub-registration district: St James and St Anne
ED, institution, or vessel: 20-23
Piece: 514

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Name: Gertrude Lizzie Harper
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 21 Mar 1897
Father's name: Edwin Harper
Mother's name: Hanna Harper
Parish or Poor Law Union: Haverstock Hill St Andrew
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

Found this one so far

this one would be born about 1890 in berkshire mentioned in the 1911 census posted above


Name Gertrude Lizzie Harper
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Berkshire
Parish Speen
Ecclesiastical Parish ST JOHN STOCKCROSS
Registration District Newbury
Residence Note Stockcross Road
Gender Female
Age 1
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1890
Birthplace Berkshire, England
Page Number 3
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 970/ 66
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Jesse Harper Head M 27 Berkshire, England
Kate Prudence Harper Wife F 22 Berkshire, England
William Geo Harper Son M 2 Berkshire, England
Gertrude Lizzie Harper Daughter F 1 Berkshire, England
Elizabeth Harper Mother F 67 Berkshire, England

Who does she name as her father on her MC to Harry?

When did she die? Is this relevant?

Name: Gertrude Giddy
Birth Date: abt 1895
Date of Registration: Dec 1967
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: St Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 1069

Gertrude Lizzie Harper
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name Gertrude Lizzie Harper
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1890
Registration District Newbury
County Berkshire
Event Place Newbury, Berkshire, England
Volume 2C
Page 229
Line Number 18

Ah the one I posted at 13.06 would only make her 14 in 1911 so not her.

A tree on Ancestry says that she's the daughter of Jesse Harper and Kate Prudence, It shows 7 siblings but no spouse or children. It says that Jesse was the son of George Harper and Elizabeth Wernham and he had 6 siblings.

Hi Julie and welcome to GR.


Gertrude Harper in the 1911 England Census
Name:Gertrude Harper
Age in 1911:21
Estimated birth year:abt 1890
Relation to Head:Inmate
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Newbury, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish:St Anne within the Liberty of Westminster
County/Island:London
Country:England
Street address:Westminster Union Workhouse, 49 Poland St, Oxford St W
Marital Status:Single
Occupation:GENERAL SERVANT
Registration district:Westminster

With son Arthur Jas .......14 days old


Births Jun 1911 (>99%)
Harper Arthur J Westminster 1a 409

Gertrude Harper in the 1901 England Census
Name:Gertrude Harper
Age:19
Estimated birth year:abt 1882
Relation to Head:Daughter
Gender:Female
Father:Jesse Harper
Mother:Kate P Harper
Birth Place:Stockcross, Berkshire, England Civil Parish:Speen
Ecclesiastical parish:St John
Town:Stockcross
County/Island:Berkshire Country:England
Registration district:Newbury
Sub-registration district:Speen

Household Members:

Jesse Harper 33
Kate P Harper 32
William Harper 11
Gertrude Harper 19 >>>>>Her age is 10 on the image.
Albert Harper 9
Alice Harper 8
Emily Harper 4
Arthur Harper 3 >>>>( Further down you will see that Arthur is with Kate's mother in 1911.)
Alfred Harper 4/12

Gertrude Lizzie Harper in the 1891 England Census
Name:Gertrude Lizzie Harper
Age:1
Estimated birth year:abt 1890
Relation:Daughter
Father's name:Jesse Harper
Mother's name:Kate Prudence Harper
Gender:Female
Where born:Stockcross, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish:Speen
Ecclesiastical parish:
Stockhouse St Johns

Town:Stockcross
County/Island:
Berkshire

Country:England
Registration district:Newbury

Household Members:

Jesse Harper 27
Kate Prudence Harper 22 Boxford Berkshire
William Geo Harper 2
Gertrude Lizzie Harper 1
Elizabeth Harper 67 (Mother)

Marriages Mar 1889 (>99%)
Harper Jesse Newbury 2c 299
WAYTE Kate Prudence Newbury 2c 299

Jesse Harper in the 1911 England Census
Name:Jesse Harper
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated birth year:abt 1864
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Boxford, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish:Speen
County/Island:Berkshire
Country:England
Street address:Marsh Benham Nr Newbury, Berkshire
Marital Status:Widower
Occupation:General Labourer
Registration district:Newbury

Household Members:



Jesse Harper 47
Alice Harper 18
Emily Harper 14
Elfred Harper 11
Mable Harper 7
Harry Harper 6
Walter Charles Harper 4

Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%)
Harper Kate Prudence 40 Newbury 2c 138

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Any idea when and where Gertrude died?

Name: Gertrude Giddy
Birth Date: abt 1895
Date of Registration: Dec 1967
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: St Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 1069

Name: Harry S Giddy
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Dec 1951
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 405

Gertrude Lizzie Giddy in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name:Gertrude Lizzie Giddy
Year:1939
County or Borough:Camden
Ward or Division/Constituency:St Pancras North
80 Bartholomew Road with........Harry Stanley Giddy

Baptism of Arthur

Name: Arthur James Harper
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1911
Baptism Date: 6 May 1911
Archive Provided Parish: Barnes, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Barnes
Father: Harper
Mother: Gertrude Lizzie Harper
No Father
Address 15 Beverley Gardens, Barnes

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I have found 15 Beverley Gardens in the 1911 Census and it appears to be a Convalescent Home comprising of five patients, all young women, and three babies who are the illegimate children of the patients.

Workhouse documents

Name: Gertrude Harper
Born: 1890
Occupation: Servant
Admission 20 Mar 1911
Discharge 10 Apr 1911
Address of nearest known relative or friend: Father. Marsh Benham, Newbury

This is complicated.

I am going to go back.......and work forward as I think it will make more sense to you that way.

Kate's birth registration....

Kate Prudence Wait in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Kate Prudence Wait
Registration Year:1868
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Newbury
Inferred County:Berkshire
Volume:2c
Page:228

On the 1871 census, she appears as Catherine "G?" Waite.......Step Daughter
Name:Catharine G Waite
Age:2
Estimated birth year:abt 1869
Relation:Stepdaughter
Mother's name:Martha Dreweatt
Gender:Female
Where born:Boxford, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish:Boxford
County/Island:Berkshire
Country:England
Registration district:Newbury
Sub-registration district:Speen

Household Members:

Henry I Dreweatt 26
Martha Dreweatt 27
Catharine G Waite 2

Kate was obviously born out of wedlock because her mother didn't marry until 1870

Unless of course Martha had been married before?

??

Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%)
King Martha Newbury 2c 460
WAITE Charles Newbury 2c 460



Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
DREWETT Henry John Newbury 2c 465
WAITE Martha Newbury 2c 465



Kate P . Waite in the 1881 England Census
Name:Kate P . Waite
Age:12
Estimated birth year:abt 1869
Relationship to Head:Daughter
Father:Henry J. Drewett
Mother:Martha Drewett
Gender:Female
Where born:Boxford, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish:Boxford
County/Island:Berkshire
Country:England
Street address:5 Hunts Green

Household Members

Henry J. Drewett 36
Martha Drewett 37
Kate P. Waite 12
Sarah B. Drewett 9
Henry E. Drewett 3
Martha Drewett