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I am trying to find out where my great granddad was in 1911. I don't subscribe so information is limited.
in 1901 he was married to Eliza Bovey living at 7 Dobbs Cross Southwark London England but I think this may of changed.
I also think his name may be wrong. In 1901 he was Francesese Bovey Birth Year 1851 Occupation Hawker. Not sure if his name is Francesese or Francis
I would also like to order his birth certificate to be able to start tracing back.
If anyone can help I would be extremely grateful.
Thank Lesley

the spelling will be Francis ( male)

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Marriages Mar 1897 (>99%)
BOVEY Francis St. Saviour 1d 161
HOLLAND Elizabeth St. Saviour 1d 161

He is still at the same address in 1911:

Francis Bovey

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Francis Bovey
Age in 1911: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Southwark St George the Martyr
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County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 7 Dobbs Cross S E
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: GENERAL DEALER
Registration district: Southwark
Registration District Number: 23
Sub-registration district: Kent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 1765
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Bovey 60
Francis Bovey 50 **This is actually down as 'Mrs Bovey' born Chatham, Kent.
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Married 35 or 36 years - 6 children born (2 had died)

Also on the form but crossed through were:

Francis son 34 married General Dealer.
Sarah
Samuel
Emma
Ernest Payne 5 grandson b.10 Cole St, Dover Rd., Surrey.


Dea x

1901 shows different wife?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Dobbs Cross, St George the Martyr Southwark, St Saviour Southwark, London, England
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Francis Bovey Head Married Male 24 1877 Street Hawker Borough, Surrey, England Transcription
Margaret Bovey Wife - Female 25 1876 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England Transcription
Frances Bovey Son - Male 4 1897 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England

His wife is down as Mrs Bovey on the 1911.......Not Frances!

!911 image gives "Mrs Bovey"

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6 Dobbs Cross S E, Southwark St George the Martyr, London, England

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Age Birth year Birth place
Francis Bovey Head Married Male General Dealer 34 1877 16 Lant St Borough Surrey
- Bovey Wife Married Female Cloth Sorter 35 1876 54 Bermondsey New RD
Francis Bovey Son - Male Assistant To His Grandfather In A Coffee Shop 14 1897 5 Artisan Dwellings Friar ST

6 children born, only 1 living

That's the family listed above the one Lesley is looking at Rose.

EDIT - are we looking for someone born c.1851 or c.1877?

Kath. x

Father and son I presume then?

The family in 1881


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
23, Camperdown Place, Bermondsey, St Olave Southwark, London, England

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Francis H Bovey Head Married Male 20 1861 Laborer Waterside NB 30 on image Lambeth, Surrey, England <<<<<
Sarah Bovey Wife Married Female 23 1858 - Chatham, Kent, England
Francis Bovey Son Single Male 4 1877 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England <<<<<
John Bovey Son Single Male 1 1880 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Given the strange spelling of his name in the 1901 census I wondered about this person in the 1871 census and maybe he Anglicized his name??? :-

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Victoria Road Beaumont, St Giles Camberwell, Camberwell, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

William H Vacher Head - Male 45 1826 - Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Vacher Wife - Female 38 1833 - Middlesex, England
Harold H Vacher Son - Male 11 1860 - Middlesex, England
Walter R Vacher Son - Male 9 1862 - Middlesex, England
Gertrude Vacher Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Kent, England
Ernest Vacher Son - Male 5 1866 - Kent, England
Leonard C Vacher Son - Male 3 1868 - Surrey, England
Florence Vacher Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Surrey, England
Francois de Bovis Visitor - Male 18 1853<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< (image says born Tahiti)
Louisa Ward Servant - Female 35 1836
Jane Sharp Servant - Female 40 1831
Eliza Powell Servant - Female 22 1849
Maria Drake Servant - Female 20 1851
Sarah Ward Servant - Female 18 1853

Kath. x
Census details

Marriage of Francis senior

Marriages Mar 1872 (>99%)
BOVEY Francis Henry Bethnal Green 1c 403
Howe Sarah Bethnal Green 1c 403

Elizabeth Holland didn't marry Francis in 1897, she married Charles Joshua Snare"

Marriages Mar 1897 (>99%)
BOVEY Francis St. Saviour 1d 161
COHEN Margaret St. Saviour 1d 161
HOLLAND Elizabeth St. Saviour 1d 161
Snare Charles Joshua St. Saviour 1d 161

Elizabeth Holland

in the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
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Name: Elizabeth Holland
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Age: 19
Spouse: Charles Joshua Snare
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Mar 1897
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: James Holland
Spouse Father: William Snare
Register Type: Parish Register

ah right that explains that then :-)

Francis senior

Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%)
Bovey Francis 69 Southwark 1d 74

The age must be wrong on the 1881 census where it is given as born c.1861 if he was married 1872.

Kath. x

Margaret Cohen married Francis Bovey in 1897:

Margaret Cohen

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Name: Margaret Cohen
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Age: 21
Spouse: Francis Bovey
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Mar 1897
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Robert Cohen
Spouse Father: Francis Bovey
Register Type: Parish Register

Francis is a general dealer as is his father Francis.

Kathleen the image has him as 30 , transcription 20 (fmp)

I wonder though if he was economical about his age?

Births Dec 1843 (>99%)
Bovey Francis Henry Lambeth 4 300

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Marlboro Street, Christ Church, St Saviour Southwark, London, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Francis Bovey Head - Male 24 1847 - Surrey, England
Sarah Bovey Wife - Female 21 1850 - Surrey, England

edit living with Sarah before marriage?. He is a Dock Labourer

Father's marriage:

Francis Henry Bovey

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Name: Francis Henry Bovey
Spouse: Sarah Howe
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Jan 1872
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Bovey
Spouse Father: William Howe
Register Type: Parish Register

He's a costermonger, his father a tailor. Her father a clog maker.

Don't know if this is relevant.........but going by the 1901 census with wife Margaret

Francis Bovey in the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Francis Bovey (Bachelor) General Dealer
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Age: 20
Spouse: Margaret Cohen (Spinster) Cloth Sorter
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Mar 1897
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Francis Bovey (General Dealer)
Spouse Father: Robert Cohen (Hatter)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Edward Carney and Harriet Webster

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Marshall Street, Saint George the Martyr, Saint George Southwark, Surrey, England

Sarah Bovey Head Married Female 36 1815 Allowance By Husband Westminster, Middlesex, England
John Joseph J Bovey Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Jobbing Labourer Westminster, Middlesex, England
Francis Henry Bovey Son - Male 7 1844 Scholar Lambeth, Surrey, England
Frederick Thos Bovey Son - Male 2 1849 - Lambeth, Surrey, England