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arthur taylor's death as he is not in the 1911 census

Deaths Sep 1901
Taylor Arthur 43 Nottingham 7b 243

Possible deaths for Percy:

TAYLOR PERCY 1890 1971 1971 England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England


TAYLOR PERCY 1891 1977 1977 England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England


TAYLOR PERCY G 1890 1940 1940 England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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TAYLOR PERCY H 1890 1941 1941 England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England


TAYLOR PERCY H 1890 1962 1962 England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Bingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Pam, Thank you for pulling those together - it helps seeing all the alternatives in one place.

Malyon. Arthur died 26 Sep 1901. Nottsgirl (Wendy) kindly sent his burial record sometime ago.

Found who was recorded at 112 Exeter Rd in 1939. It was Susie Taylor and her husband William Harold Meakin.

Unless I buy Percy's BC, we may have to leave this for a while. Thank you all for your help.

DetEcTive - do you have the butial records of those buried with Arthur?

Good thought mgnv

From a check list, it would seem to be

Arthur Taylor
Buried 28 Sep 1901 - Church (Rock) Cemetery, Nottingham
Grave 2316 Internment 11902

William Taylor
Buried 8 Dec 1881 - Church (Rock) Cemetery, Nottingham
Grave 2316 Internment 4865

Also Jemima (Lomas) Taylor
Buried 17 Nov 1906 in the same grave.

William Taylor and Jemima were Arthur's parents.

Percy's mother Eliza Ann (Meakin) Taylor was buried in plot 8233 in the same cemetery. Although I'll ask Nottsgirl if it was a family plot, she normally lets you know if other people were also interned there.
Burials of other Taylor/Meakin children are either not on line, or they were cremated

In 1919, Fanny Grace and Percy were living at 58 Dryden Street. They are there together in 1922 and then she is alone in 1923.

The death that matches in March 1923 has Percy as 47...so probably isn't yours.

Jude

That's a great help Jude. Thank you :-( :-D

Ok the Florence born September 1887 matches the marriage in September 1928 Florence lee Clarke to Percy ... The 1929 marriage to Florence gunn matches a birth in June 1887. And this Percy matches the 1971 death

Jude

For the death that PH & Dea put up on page 1:

Name: Percy Taylor
Birth Date: 1 Sep 1890
Date of Registration: Jun 1971
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c Page: 857

Wills & Probate:

TAYLOR Percy of Hawthornes Beckhampton Road Bestwood Pk Nottingham died 15 April 1971 Administration (with Will) Nottingham 20 May £2078

Ah well done AustinQ - during my insomniac hour I was on the Ipad and haven't got the link to the Find a Will on the Ipad.

Det - I'd invest in the marriage certificate to Florence Lee

These are the two possible marriages

Marriages Sep 1928 (>99%)
Taylor Percy Clarke Nottingham 7b 917
Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
Taylor Percy Gunn Nottingham 7b 1038

And this is my reasoning for choosing the 1928 marriage

Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
Clarke Florence Lee Nottingham 7b 274

Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
Gunn Florence Basford 7b 266

That way you will be able to see that we have the correct Percy.

Regarding the change of vocation, the Nottingham lace industry was in decline from the Wall Street Crash in 1929 onwards - maybe that accounted for it?

Jude

I'd buy the birth cert first- although the marriage may seem correct, it might be that Percy moved from Nottingham and married/ died elsewhere.

Thank you both. I really appreciate everyone's input. :-)

I'll go for the BC first as then we should be able to match it up with a 1939 entry. Jude, thank you for the info about the Notts silk industry. I'd assumed it was after 1945 - parachutes and all that.

It came from an article (link below)

http://www.williams.gen.nz/hosiery.html

World trade conditions worsened after the 1929 financial crisis, which started in America and the lace trade continued to decline. The effect on the Lace Market can be seen from an analysis of the firms in Kelly's Directory for 1932 of Nottinghamshire. The old distinction in earlier directories between lace makers and lace manufacturers disappeared and instead the trade is divided into lace manufacturers and lace curtain manufacturers. The directory names 158 and 44 respectively, after allowing for a few firms which appeared in both. Of these 202 firms, which covered the whole county, 37 were outside the town mainly at Beeston and Chilwell. Of the remainder 120 were in or adjoining the Lace Market. The way in which the buildings in the Lace Market were now used can be seen from the directory. On High Pavement, 54 firms were listed and 15 of these were not lace firms. They included a printer, bookseller, engraver, cardboard box manufacturer, colliery furnishers, a manufacturing chemist and textile trades other than lace. On Stoney Street, the change was even more marked. Out of 58 firms only 36 were connected with lace. Other uses included the Telephone Manager's Office, a foreign translating and typewriting agency, a secretarial training college as well as electrical wholesalers, a plumber and a tyre manufacturer. It is interesting to note that the directory also lists nine lace dealers in Nottingham, seven of whom had stalls in the newly opened Central Market on Parliament Street.

The outbreak of war, in 1939, again meant a disruption of normal trade. The lace industry was adapted for wartime production making such items as mosquito nets and camouflage netting. Whilst this enabled the industry to carry on, it did nothing to help the physical environment of the Lace Market. The diversification of uses and the unavailability of resources to maintain the buildings meant that they continued to deteriorate. In addition, although Nottingham did not experience the devastation from air raids which other towns did, the Lace Market had buildings on Short Hill and St. Mary's Gate which were considerably damaged in May 1941.

Jude

Thank Jude. How interesting.

Hi Det,

Sorry to come in on this a bit late but I'll have a look at the burial of Eliza Ann (Meakin) Taylor was buried in plot 8233 next time I'm in the archives for you.

Wendy :-)

This was in the lace industry - he was in Silk !!

Both declined for very different reasons but around the same tme !!

Dea x

Sorry for neglecting replies - been off line. Back to normal sometime tomorrow.

Wendy, you kindly sent me the Eliza (Meakin) Taylor burial already. If there's any easy way to seeing anyone else is in the same plot, that would be great, thank you.

Hi Dea, didn't realise there was a separate industry!

Either way, I think it could be a credible reason for the change of occupation.

Jude

I agree Jude ;-)

Just hope that cert arrives soon......................

Dea x

(saw below, if relating anywhere!)

Chris :)

05 November 1930 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

BIRTHS
TAYLOR - On the 5th, at 10, Sandon-street, to Mrs. P. Taylor (nee Florence Gunn), a daughter