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28 Mar 2016 23:28 |
Same tree shows Laura in 1861 as already posted here earlier, the marriage, and the 1901/1911 census. It has her death as March 1929, Birkenhead.
No details of her parents other than names as already posted.
John Henry Etheridge and Sarah (John Junior's parents) are shown to be in Lambeth 1881/1891. No details on his parents. Barbara's parents Richard Fairbanks 1806 - ? and Barbara Ann Willmore 1811 - ? They married 1831 St Mary, Lambeth.
But this is why you have to check yourself - Richard born 1806 is listed as son of Richard b 1798 and Barbara Fairbank b 1808 !!!!!!!!!!! Probably mixed 2 generations up here, too many Richard and Barbaras)
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28 Mar 2016 23:10 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 2 Priory Court Birkenhead, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place John Etheridge Head Married Male Generl Labourer 55 1856 Cheshire Birkenhead Jane Francess Etheridge Wife Married Female - 50 1861 Cheshire Birkenhead <<<<<< Laura Frances Etheridge Daughter Single Female Lever's Port Sunlight 20 1891 Cheshire Birkenhead Edward Richard Etheridge Son Single Male Butchers 16 1895 Cheshire Birkenhead
<<<<<Original has Laura Frances
Married 24 years , 6 children born alive 1 has died
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28 Mar 2016 23:03 |
So the elderly aunts might be right
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 2, Court 1 Bag Lane, St Peter, Derby, Derbyshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Etheridge Head Single Male 25 1856 Trainer Of Performing Birds Lambeth, Surrey, England George H Etheridge Brother Single Male 34 1847 Trainer Of Performing Birds Dealer Lambeth, Surrey,
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28 Mar 2016 23:01 |
A tree on Ancestry has this for John - but you do need to confirm it all yourself, not all trees are 100% reliable !!
John Henry Etheridge
Birth 2 May1856 • London, England 30 Charles Street, St. Mary Newington, Surrey s/o John Henry Etheridge 1834 - ? and Barbara Sarah Fairbunk 1834-1890
Baptism 27 Jun 1856 • St. Mary's, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Marriage July 1881 • Mansfield, Nottinghamshire
1881 • Derby St Peter, Derbyshire, England Age: 25; Relation to Head of House: Head
1901 • Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Age: 44; Relation to Head of House: Head
Residence 02 Apr 1911 • Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Age: 55; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Head
Death January 1935 • Birkenhead, Merseyside, England Age: 79
Burial 15 January 1935 • Bebington Cemetery Section M, Grave 536
Probate - of 32 Mason Street, Lower Tranmere, Birkenhead died 11 January 1935 Probate Liverpool 25 January to Elizabeth Mclaughlin Spinster Effects £213 12s 6d
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28 Mar 2016 22:41 |
I was hoping that the record on FMP from Notts marriages might give names of Father's but unfortunately not.
Nottinghamshire marriages, 1528-1929 Transcription
First name(s) Laura Frances Last name Hollidge Marriage year 1881 Marriage date 18 Jul 1881 Marriage place Mansfield Church St John the Evangelist Denomination Anglican Spouse's first name(s) John Spouse's last name Etheridge County Nottinghamshire Country England Record set Nottinghamshire marriages, 1528-1929
You really need to get their marriage certificate to see who John names as his Father along with the occupations. Order from
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates at £9.25 with the details below
Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%)
ETHERIDGE John Mansfield 7b 73 HOLLIDGE Laura Frances Mansfield 7b 73
OR - IF Wendy is due to go into the Notts Archives, she might be able to look up the details for you if you give her the details from the Notts marriages transcript I posted i.e. names, date, place of marriage. Have a look at her thread and provide a link to this one for her.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1266434
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Carole
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28 Mar 2016 20:04 |
Thank you al very much but I wonder if anyone can gain information on My great great grandfather, the elusive Mr Etheridge. I believe that they did travel a lot as rumour has it that the Etheridge family were gypsies at some point , I believe something to do with birds but my elderly aunts maybe wrong
Thank you again Carole
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28 Mar 2016 19:22 |
?? baptisms of Ephriam's siblings. Father Thomas, Mother Mary
William 18.7.1784 Swindon, Christ church HOLLEG Thomas 5.2.1785 Swindon, Chist Church HOLLIGG Thomas 5.2.1786 Swindon, Christ Church HOLLIGG Adam 20.2.1788 Swindon, Christ Church HOLLEGG Ephraim 1792 Swindon Christ church HOLLIDGE Jane 23.7.1795 Swindon, Christ Church HOLLIDGE
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28 Mar 2016 18:13 |
From the free site - https://familysearch.org
Name Ephraim Hollidge Gender Male Christening Date 16 Dec 1792 Christening Place Christ Church, Swindon, Wiltshire, England Father's Name Thomas Hollidge Mother's Name Mary
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28 Mar 2016 18:00 |
?? Joseph's wife - marriage record has Perement (try in a Norfolk accent)
The RD St Faith's covers Horstead where she says she was born
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Dec 1842 (>99%) Parryment Susannah St Faiths 13 104
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28 Mar 2016 17:54 |
Laura's Father Joseph son of Elizabeth Hollidge (illegitimate by the looks) Norfolk baptisms Transcription
First name(s) Joseph Last name Hollidge Sex Male Birth year 1837 Birth date 28 May 1837 Baptism year 1837 Baptism date 04 Jun 1837 Father's first name(s) - Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Parish Norwich, St Peter Parmentergate Diocese Norwich County Norfolk
From 1851 census Also Ephraim son of Elizabeth b 22.9.1840 bap 15.2.1852 Norwich St Julian
Thomas son of Hannah b 21.4 1846 bap 26.4.1846 Norwich St Julian
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28 Mar 2016 17:47 |
Another Hannah not found in baptisms
First name(s) Hannah Last name Hollidge Sex Female Age 29 Birth year 1825 Residence St Julian Marriage date 04 Sep 1854 Parish Norwich, St Julian Diocese Norwich Spouse's first name(s) George Spouse's last name Robinson Spouse's age 28 Spouse's parish St Julian Father's first name(s) Ephraim Father's last name Hollidge Spouse's father's first name(s) James Spouse's father's last name Robinson
Both signed. Witnesses William Hollidge and J Robinson ---------------------------------------------- First name(s) William Last name Hollidge Sex Male Age Of Full Age Residence St Julian Marriage year 1847 Marriage date 23 May 1847 Parish Norwich, St Julian Diocese Norwich Spouse's first name(s) Harriet Whitren (? Whitsun) Spouse's last name Sizer Spouse's age Of Full Age Spouse's parish St Julian Father's first name(s) Ephraim Father's last name Holliage Spouse's father's first name(s) John Spouse's father's last name Sizer County Norfolk
Witnesses Henry James Gooch - signed and Elizabeth Hollidge - her mark
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Also Jacob Hollidge - a shoemaker to Mary Farrow 25.1.1813 At St John Timberhill etc. Both made their mark. One of witnesses E Hollidge.
Hannah Hollidge a Dressmaker resident in Lakenham to James Swash an Upholsterer of the parish on 15.5 1842 both of full age at Old Lakenham (St John with All Saints). Parents Jacob Hollage a Shoemaker and Barnaby Swash a Gunmaker
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28 Mar 2016 17:22 |
Norfolk marriages Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) Ephraim Last name Hollidge Sex Male Birth year - Residence St Michaels,Thorpe Marriage year 1815 Marriage date 27 Mar 1815 Parish Norwich, St Mary in the Marsh Diocese Norwich Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Spouse's last name Farrow Spouse's parish St Mary in the Marsh County Norfolk
Both single, He signed, she made her mark. Says were married in this 'Chapel" by Banns. Witnesses William Parrish and Jacob Hollidge
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28 Mar 2016 17:11 |
Norfolk burials - Ephraim and Elizabeth appear to have lost several of their children. Images of originals on FMP
Ephraim Hollidge b1819 bur 8.7.1837 age 18 Norwich, St John Timberhill with All Saints & St Michael at Thorn Abode St Peter Parmentergate (also known as St Peter Mountergate) Jacob Hollidge b1791 bur 29.4.1849 Norwich, St John Timberhill with All Saints & St Michael at Thorn Married Man. Abode - St Peter's Permountergate James Hollidge b1821 bur 9.9.1821 age 0 Norwich, St John Timberhill with All Saints & St Michael at Thorn Infant. Abode - this parish James Hollidge b1822 bur 11.5.1828 age 6 Norwich, St John Timberhill with All Saints & St Michael at Thorn Abode - this parish Mary Hollidge b1786 bur 26.1.1845 age 59 Norwich, St John Timberhill with All Saints & St Michael at Thorn Married woman Abode - St Peter's Per Mountergate Hannah Holledge b1816 bur 4.11.1819 Norwich, St John Timberhill with All Saints & St Michael at Thorn Abode - of this parish Jacob Holledge b1822 bur 11.11.1825 age 3 Norwich, St John Timberhill with All Saints & St Michael at Thorn Abode - St Julian's Mary Holledge b1814 bur 6.6.1819 age 5 Norwich, St John Timberhill with All Saints & St Michael at Thorn Abode - St Julian's Mary Holledge b1829 bur 23.10.1831 age 2 Norwich, St John Timberhill with All Saints & St Michael at Thorn Abode - St Julian
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MargaretM
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28 Mar 2016 16:56 |
That adult baptism of Laura Frances gives birthdate of 5 Mar. 1860.
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28 Mar 2016 16:43 |
Norfolk Baptisms children of Ephraim and Elizabeth - images of original on FMP
Hannah Holledge bap. 25.2.1816 Norwich, St Peter Parmentergate Elizabeth Holledge b10.4.1817 bap. 14.9.1817 Norwich, St John Timberhill with All Saints & St Michael at Thorn Ephraim Holledge b 4.4.1819 bap. 9.4.1819 Norwich, St John Timberhill with All Saints & St Michael at Thorn James Holledge b27.4.1822 bap. 29.4.1822 Norwich, St John Timberhill **** James Holledge b28.6.1822 bap. 30.6.1822 Norwich, St John Timberhill with All Saints & St Michael at Thorn William Hollidge b 25.9.1826 bap. 1.10.1826 Norwich, St Martin at Palace Mary Hollidge b12.8.1829 bap. 23.8.1829 Norwich, St Martin at Palace Mary Hollidge b24.12.1831 bap. 1.1.1832 Norwich, St Peter Parmentergate
****Original shows this birth and baptism were 1821
Ephraim a Sawyer 1816, 1819, 1821, 1822, 1829, 1832 but Cordwainer 1817
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28 Mar 2016 16:30 |
This is strange- appears to be after her marriage?!
Adult baptism:
Name: Laura Frances Hollidge (Adult baptism) Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 12 Sep 1885 Father's name: Joseph Hollidge (Painter) Mother's name: Susannah Hollidge Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St Mary Borough: Lambeth Register Type: Parish Registers
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28 Mar 2016 16:25 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Egerton Street, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Jane Ethridge Head Married Female 31 1860 House Keeper Norwich Transcription John Ethridge Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription Susannah Ethridge Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Nottingham Transcription James Ethridge Son - Male 2 1889 Scholar Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Transcription Richard Peers Friend Married Male 36 1855 Hawker Overton, Wales Transcription Annie Peers Friend Married Female 24 1867 Ring Spinner Wigan, Lancashire, England
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28 Mar 2016 16:08 |
Nothing missing between Hannah and Mary, but just the way it's copied !!
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription East Side of King Street, St Julian, Norwich, Norfolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Ephraim Hollidge Head Married Male 58 1793 Sawyer Swindon, Wiltshire, England Elizabeth Hollidge Wife Married Female 59 1792 - Norwich, Norfolk, England Elizabeth Hollidge Daughter Unmarried Female 33 1818 Nurse Norwich, Norfolk, England Hannah Hollidge Daughter Unmarried Female 27 1824 Dress Maker Norwich, Norfolk, England Mary Hollidge Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1832 Clear ? Norwich, Norfolk, England Joseph Hollidge Grand Son - Male 13 1838 Errand Boy Norwich, Norfolk, England Ephraim Hollidge Grand Son - Male 10 1841 Errand Boy Norwich, Norfolk, England Thomas Hollidge Grand Son - Male 4 1847 Scholar Norwich, Norfolk, England
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KathleenBell
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28 Mar 2016 16:02 |
Have deleted my last post as it was wrong and didn't want to confuse anyone.
Kath. x
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AustinQ
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28 Mar 2016 15:50 |
Name: Laura F Ollidge Age: 1 Estimated birth year: 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Joseph Ollidge Mother's name: Susannah Ollidge Gender: Female Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Norwich St Peter Hungate County/Island: Norfolk Registration district: Norwich Sub-registration district: East Wymer ED, institution, or vessel: 8c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 10 Piece: 1212 Folio: 148 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Ollidge 23 Susannah Ollidge 20 Laura F Ollidge 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------
FMP transcription:
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Crown Court Yard, Elm Hill, St Peter Hungate, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Joseph Hillidge Head Married Male 23 1838 Painter Norwich, Norfolk, England Susannah Hillidge Wife Married Female 20 1841 Boot Binder Horstead, Norfolk, Louisa F Hillidge Daughter Unmarried Female 1 1860 - Norwich, Norfolk, England ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriage: First name(s) JOSEPH Last name HOLLIDGE Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1859 MarriageFinder™ JOSEPH HOLLIDGE married one of these people SUSANNAH PEREMENT, HAPPY NORMAN District NORWICH County Norfolk Volume 4B Page 387
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