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Burr family
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Lesley1112 | Report | 26 Apr 2016 16:54 |
Hello everybody. I wonder if anyone has any ideas as to where I go next in tracing my Great Gran. I have a 1911 census with Thomas Burr on it born 1866 married to an Annie also born 1866. They have two children. James born 1898 and Maud born 1896 (my Gran). (They did have 4 but 2 died) They say that they have been married 21 years (so 1891 or near as). In 1891 Thomas Burr is single at the time of the census. I cannot find a marriage certificate for a Thomas Burr and Annie - except for one in Altrincham, Cheshire. This is not them. Annie states that she was born in Peckham. Thomas was born in Hertfordshire. I did think at one time it was Annie Bates but that is now unlikely.Possibly never married?? Anyone any ideas? |
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rootgatherer | Report | 26 Apr 2016 17:02 |
John Thomas Burr, Carpenter Grenadier Guards |
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Maddie | Report | 26 Apr 2016 17:07 |
?????? |
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rootgatherer | Report | 26 Apr 2016 17:13 |
1891 |
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Maddie | Report | 26 Apr 2016 17:16 |
ANNA BEATRICE |
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rootgatherer | Report | 26 Apr 2016 17:17 |
Ages change in 1901 but it appears to be the same couple |
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malyon | Report | 26 Apr 2016 17:18 |
COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE |
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Maddie | Report | 26 Apr 2016 17:20 |
1881 |
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malyon | Report | 26 Apr 2016 17:30 |
perhaps they married later in woolwich |
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rootgatherer | Report | 26 Apr 2016 18:05 |
Malyon, you don't think the marriage found is correct? |
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Chris in Sussex | Report | 26 Apr 2016 18:34 |
Annie seems to have been a little vague with her age... |
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rootgatherer | Report | 26 Apr 2016 19:18 |
Love the "Army accouterments maker" bit Chris :-) |
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Lesley1112 | Report | 26 Apr 2016 20:17 |
Hello everybody. Thanks for getting back so quick. Thomas 's father was William b.1840 -1890. So I'm not sure if it is Annie Beatrice Guyatt. I know the 1911 census is correct and also the 1901 census. It would make sense geographically and age wise if it was Annie Beatrice especially as it is Annie B. I wil revisit my records and see what they throw up. The army record was interesting Maddie. Thank you. When Thomas puts down next of kin is it just "Father and address Johnsfield, High Street, Hemel Hempstead?"Just a thought. I'm brain storming myself. If I have Thomas ' s father wrong I will have to rewrite my tree. Perhaps he is John Thomas Burr? I will have to look for a birth record. Thank you all. Regards Lesley :-) |
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rootgatherer | Report | 26 Apr 2016 20:54 |
Lesley, if you don't have the marriage, can I ask please how you know that Thomas's father was William? |
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rootgatherer | Report | 26 Apr 2016 21:00 |
This looks like Maud's marriage and her father is Thomas John Burr (one of the witnesses). I feel pretty sure that we have the correct marriage for Thomas and Annie. |
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rootgatherer | Report | 26 Apr 2016 21:02 |
Maud's birth certificate would confirm her mother's maiden surname. |
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rootgatherer | Report | 26 Apr 2016 21:12 |
Is this your Gran in 1939 please? |
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rootgatherer | Report | 26 Apr 2016 21:35 |
Think John Thomas wasn't accurate with his year of birth on census records either. |
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rootgatherer | Report | 26 Apr 2016 21:47 |
If you don't already have it, I think you first step is to buy a copy of your Gran's birth certificate to find out her mother's maiden surname. |
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Lesley1112 | Report | 27 Apr 2016 16:10 |
Hello everybody. Thank you so much for all of your input. I have now ordered a copy of my Gran's birth certificate. I had a short version of it because my Dad had ordered one in 1952 for some reason. Thank you rootgatherer. I quite agree it is prudent to order certificates. I do have the marriage certificate of Frederick Francis and Maud Annie Burr. This does state that Maud's Dad was Thomas John Burr and that does make me think that I will be rewriting my family tree. And yes that is my Gran in 1939 at 359 Lodge Avenue. I thought that Thomas's father was William because I had found a Thomas Burr born in 1868 who seemed to match all of my criteria. In the census it states that his father was William. It looks like I was very wrong here. I can see that Thomas John/John Thomas wasn't very accurate with his birth date. I have now found the birth of a John Thomas born 1861 in Hemel Hempstead which is most probably my Great Granddad. Why would he call himself Thomas John when his birth says John Thomas? I will await the birth certificate with excitement of Maud Annie. Once I have her mum's maiden name I can put everything right. Thank you all again. |
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