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Pauline

Pauline Report 2 Jul 2016 16:50

Thanks to all of you. WOW what a lot going on!! As Flo was my great aunt, will not pursue further .I have enough divorces in later and current family members to content with

Dea

Dea Report 2 Jul 2016 12:14

Well done you lot !!!

Dea x

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Jul 2016 12:08

Just to recap the information:

It is likely that Florence Eleanor Foster born 3rd March 1879, married William Henry Short in Islington 1900.

Florence, as identified by Jude, remarried (possibly bigamous) to William Alexander Jones in Rochford 1922

William Henry Short sought a divorce in 1923! (as found by Choccy) and remarried Annie E Staff in 1924

In 1939 Florence is listed as Widowed

10 years (1949) later Florence marries Percy L Beadle in Rochford.

Florence dies in 1957 Rochford.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Jul 2016 11:53

This is what they have for the sister (of Ivy Lilian) then: (which fits with her not living with Ivy Lilian in 1939)

1939
Household (3 People) 15A Gordon Road , Carshalton U.D., Surrey, England


Florence (E) Shaw (Short) 17 Mar 1901 Female Paid Domestic Help Single
1 more person who is officially closed
Charlotte Lee (Mitchell) 05 Feb 1891 Female Cafe Proprietors (Working) Widowed
1 more person who is officially closed
Ernest A Shaw 09 Dec 1899 Male Clerk (Civil Service) Single
1 more person who is officially closed

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Jul 2016 11:50

Oh yes Austin - I hadn't noticed that! How strange

Jude

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Jul 2016 11:49

:-)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Jul 2016 11:49

Snap Jude- although the record the death is attached to is for 1987

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Jul 2016 11:48

Yes, but, I don't think the 1970 electoral register is connected- according to "the tree", the sister married in 1941 to Ernest Shaw and died in 1987.

EDIT:- Jude keeps pinching my words and typing them faster than me!!

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Jul 2016 11:48

Well I am sure about the 1938 one but that tree on Ancestry has her marrying a Mr Shaw and dying in 1960

Jude

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Jul 2016 11:45

Solved! Well done :-D :-D

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Jul 2016 11:44

Well done- so you and Det are probably correct about the ER- and it being the sister and not the mother.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Jul 2016 11:41

And here's her death

Deaths Mar 1957 (>99%)
BEADLE Florence E 78 Rochford 4a 693 Scan available - click to view

Jude

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Jul 2016 11:41

Yes! Jude- was just about to post that

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Jul 2016 11:40

That might explain the 1970 ER

Florence E Short & Herbert Wright living at
47 Aultone Way, Sutton & Cheam, Surrey

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Jul 2016 11:40

Right only 1939 entry to fit the birthdate is

Florence E Beadle (Jones) 03 Mar 1879 Female Dressmaker Widowed 9 2

So there is this marriage

Marriages Dec 1949 (>99%)
Beadle Percy L Jones Rochford 4a 1341
Jones Florence E Beadle Rochford 4a 1341

Jude

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Jul 2016 11:37

Yes, well found Choccy....the tree on Ancestry has her birth date as 03 March 1879

I wonder if the Florence Eleanor Short living with Ivy Lilian is the daughter i.e. Ivy's sister?

Jude

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Jul 2016 11:34

Well found Choccy :)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Jul 2016 11:34

I had already looked at this marriage...

Marriages Sep 1922 (>99%)
JONES William A Short Rochford 4a 1802
Short Florence E Jones Rochford 4a 1802

So bigamously I guess!

Jude

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 Jul 2016 11:30


http://tinyurl.com/zeklheb

Divorce Court File: 1647. Appellant: William Henry Short. Respondent: Florence Eleanor...

Reference: J 77/1969/1647

Description:

Divorce Court File: 1647. Appellant: William Henry Short. Respondent: Florence Eleanor Short. Co-respondent: William Alexander Jones and William Sparkes. Type: Husband's petition for divorce [hd].

Date: 1923

Held by: The National Archives, Kew

Legal status: Public Record

Language: English

Closure status: Open Document, Open Description


HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Jul 2016 11:18

Yes Austin I was just looking at this...Ivy is her daughter. So she's with them in 1938 but not in 1939

Jude