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Looking at the Electoral Rolls for London
George Henry Martin was at 32 Porlock Place (as per George James baptism in 1902) until 1903, then at 11 Porlock Place in 1904 and 1905. It seems he was then at 26 Crosby Row in 1906, moving to 40 Crosby Row 1907 to 1901. Then 34 Crosby Row in 1910 and 1911
The majority of women did not have the vote at that time, so Alice is not shown
George Henry Martin 1903 Southwark Bermondsey 32 Porlock place
George Henry Martin 1904 Southwark Bermondsey 11 Porlock place
George Henry Martin 1905 Southwark Bermondsey 11 Porlock place
George Henry Martin 1906 Southwark Bermondsey 26 Crosby row
Henry Martin 1907 Southwark Bermondsey 40 Crosby row
Henry Martin 1908 Southwark Bermondsey 40 Crosby row
George Henry Martin 1909 Southwark Bermondsey 40 Crosby
George Henry Martin 1910 Southwark Bermondsey 34 Crosby row
George Henry Martin 1911 Southwark Bermondsey 34 Crosby row
Not showing from 1912 to 1918
Do you know if George Henry served in WW1?? If he did, and IF his records survive, then they might show any previous service.
He was young enough to have to serve in WW1 .......... my maternal granfather was born in 1875, was married and had 3 children by 1915, but still served from 1915 until March 1919.
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Breaking Peace > wounding, 9th January 1912
MARTIN, William, otherwise MARTIN, Mike (22, coster), JONES, John, otherwise RANDALL, Jack (24, labourer), CLIFFORD, James (25, carman), MARTIN, James Albert (27, printer), feloniously causing grievous bodily harm to Austin Greaves with intent to murder him; (second count) with intent to cause him grievous bodily harm.
HENRY BROCKMAN , manager, "Whitesmith's Arms," Crosby Row. Prisoners have been frequenters of my house since the time I have been there, April, 1910; they have come in singly and together. I also knew a brother of the Martins named George;
https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t19120109-14
(looking at 1911, would say above are his Brothers)
Chris :)
1911 (Find My Past)
Mary Anne Martin Head Widow Female Private Means 51 1860 Somers Town
James A Martin Son Married Male Worker (Printers Labourer) 26 1885 Bermondsey
William Martin Son Single Male Waterside Labourer 22 1889 Bermondsey
Alfred Joseph Martin Son Single Male Carman 20 1891 Bermondsey
Caroline Martin Daughter Married Female At Home 19 1892 Bermondsey
Alice Martin Daughter In Law Married Female At Home 25 1886 Pimlico
James George Martin Grandchild Single Male School 6 1905 Bermondsey
Florence Caroline Martin Grandchild Single Female School 3 1908 Bermondsey
George Martin Grandchild - Male School 1 1910 Bermondsey
John Welch Son In Law Married Male Stojker 21 1890 Bermondsey
Ivy C Welch Grandchild - Female - 0 1911 Bermondsey
Address 147 Weston Street B Dsey S E
Parish Bermondsey
Census reference RG14 PN1867 RG78 PN67 RD24 SD2 ED2 SN73
1901 (Find My Past)
Mary Martin Head Widow Female 41 1860 Coster Camden Town, Middlesex, England
James Martin Son - Male 14 1887 Printers Boy Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Alice Martin Daughter - Female 14 1887 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England
William Martin Son - Male 13 1888 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Alfred Martin Son - Male 10 1891 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Caroline Martin Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Street Porlock Place
Parish Bermondsey
County London
Municipal ward 1
Registration district St Olave Southwark
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 388
Folio 132
Page 40
Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
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Carr Alice St. Olave 1d 323
MARTIN James Albert St. Olave 1d 323
(possible for Brother, image on London Marriages, Ancestry. Father, George. Deceased, occ. General Dealer. Witnesses were George and Alice Martin)
Edits (somebody else below researching, 2009)
http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/general_topics/thread/1152742
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Sylvia, He may have been , but we did not think so. Charles was born b 1912. Henry b 1917 and last son b 1922, so there is a gape though if Henry b 1917 maybe not?
Strange the George name missed off census 1907/1908
Chris you've come up with interesting info (as usual) Looks like brothers where naughty boys!! Interesting mother Mary Ann , lived with George at the end of her life, so maybe he was not so bad. Or maybe he was the richest of them, as they had a large house, a car a telephone in house , a fridge and even a TV ( though no broadcasting in the late 30's ) and he did love his Havana cigars
Guess will never know where he was in 1901
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Hi Guys, been away, so not been able to reply.
Re birth of George James Martin 6/12/1902 as per Mel F G. Could some-one find his death for me please, can't find on GR . I understood he died very young (pre 1911), and would like to fill in gap on tree Interesting that he was named after both Grand dads and the next son was named charles george, born 10 years later Thanks
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http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
(have you checked on above, might be easier than GR)
Chris :)
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Thanks Chriss, looks like it was March 1903. Southawk so only 3 months old
Have not yet got out of holiday mode, so brain was not working!
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Pauline ....
you commented
Pauline Report 20 Sep 2016 08:01
"Strange the George name missed off census 1907/1908"
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Those were Electoral Roll records, not a census .... don't mistake the two!!
Not strange at all ........... it was his choice, as he would have provided the information.
Maybe he preferred to use Henry????
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Sylvia, Yes i did know the difference. We have them every year still. It is a sort of census, though not compulsory, as the 10 years census are. We recently filled our latest one in
So BIG Brother is not new really , is it? been going since 1841, only the general, public (mostly at the time illiterate) could not access it
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