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Hello again another side of my family I am stumped on,peter joseph mcneil 1903-1978 married to Elizabeth daphne mcevoy 1902-1991 edinburgh,I have been trying to determine who were their children so I can continue my search ,so many mcneils in edinburgh when I search on scotlands people so any ideas how I can narrow this search down please many thanks stuart

Maybe the informant on one of their death records is family

You may have to work backwards to work forward

When did they marry ??

Have you checked the 1939 register

Edit seems1939 records are only for England and Wales

there are 237 mcneil's on the electrol list in edinburgh

Yes its frightening malyon

Peter and elizabeth married in haymarket edinburgh 9-6-1933

SP dont show a maiden name against births which stumps us all.also you have to order any certs to see the resutls which now I belive have just gone up again to over £12each.

There were 35 reg McNeil births in parts of Edinburgh ,4 of which were in Haymarket in years 1933--1945.--1946 to 1950 only 2 in Haymarket,,,,,no males have traditional naming fathers name though.

Scotland's People has his surname spelt with 2 L's on the marriage record
MCNEILL PETER JOSEPH
MCEVOY
Spouse details
1933
685/1 118
118
Haymarket

What were Peter and Joseph's parents and grandparents full names - there may be a clue to children's names in the Scottish naming pattern?

On the other hand, I'm not seeing a birth for Peter in Scotland.

Elizabeth's birth shows as 1908
MCEVOY
ELIZABETH DAPHN
F
1908
685/2 334
St Andrew (Edinburgh

Do you KNOW that the family stayed in Edinburgh after the marriage?

ED Mcevoy was registered 1908.

Ancestry has trees with Elizabeth b 1908 St Andrews, Edinburgh and her death 1991 Edinburgh. None show a spouse or children.

Her parents show as married 1907 Glasgow and are down as
William Henry Montgomery McEvoy 1875 - 1940 and
Annie Ogilvy Glasgow 1877 - 1959

William Henry M McEvoy parents John McEvoy and Dorcas Cavanagh

Annie Ogilvy Glasgow's parents John Glasgow and Mary Ogilvy

1911 census -
There is this McEvoy family in Morningside RD, Edinburgh Ref 685/6 86/4

William 36
Annie 33
Elizabeth 2
John 0

Possible further McEvoy births to the same couple
William H Montg 1912
George Ogilvy 1913
Mary Ogilvy 1916
Beatrice Thompso 1918

Peters fathers first name was peter his mother was margaret

Try tree search on here for Peter dates vary between,,1900 -1911. any which could be a match.perhaps one is a family connection to any children Peter J and Elizabeth had.

ok kay

Please can you tell us ALL the details on the marriage cert, Stuart?



This is the 1991 death for E D McEvoy/McNeill:
MCEVOY

ELIZABETH DAPHN[E]

83

1991

738/ 739

George Square




MCNEIL

ELIZABETH DAPHN[E]

83

1991

738/ 739

George Square


As her death is listed under both names, that should mean that she was known by both names, so maybe the marriage failed and they separated or divorced.
(Unless it's a new way SP is showing previous surnames.)

The informant on the death cert might turn out to be her child.

Peter's name (assuming this is the same Peter) is spelled with two l's on his death record as well as at marriage - though Elizabeth's is spelled with only one at her death - if that means anything!:

MCNEILL

PETER

74

1978

730/ 277

Haymarket

Witnesses on marriage cert were john mcneill brother 27 wardlaw place and Sophie mcevoy 9 wardlaw place I reckon this was probably the two family homes before they married

Argyllgran,
It IS the new way of showing the death of a married woman.

All surnames for the deceased woman are indexed separately under one index number. ( in this case 738/739 .. under both her maiden and married names

Edit:
A wee tip that I found on the new death search on SP

If you identify a potential female death.
Search a 2nd time by removing the surname ( leave it blank)
Make certain that 1st name(s) entered is/are exactly the same as the one on the death that you located.

Ensure that the year and place also match with the result and... hit search

All death indexes with the same number will be the same person.
If there are more than 2 surnames, the chances are that she married more than once.

So far, I have found the deaths of 2 elusive women.
It transpires that both married a 2nd time and both married late in life

I never knew about either of the 2nd marriages until the name came up under the same index number and by using the name combination, I easily located the additional marriages.


I was initially unhappy with the new search but, I am now loving it!

http://keddie.yolasite.com/william-h-m-mcevoy-1875.php

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=713807.0

(above are relating to William Henry Montgomery McEvoy, from google)

Chris :)

(snippet from first link)

On 26th December 1907 he married Annie Ogilvy Glasgow in the Church of the Sacred Heart in Edinburgh. He was working as a mental nurse.

In 1918 they had moved to 9 Wardlaw Place in Edinburgh. William was working as a rubber worker.

William died of valvular heart disease and pulmonary congestion, aged 65, in 1940 at 9 Wardlaw Place. Until he died he was working as a night watchman.

Thanks for the tips re SP, GlasgowLass - very useful!