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if jose married violet flint nee handscombe they had a daughter born 1951 Croydon name carol

there is a marriage for a carol a flint in Croydon 1977 to Robert brotherwood
if you could find her she might be able to help

Unless it's a different Robert J Brotherwood, he remarried in Croydon in 1986.

Robert J Brotherwood died 2011 in Coulsdon, Surrey.

Carol a brotherwood is still in Croydon to 2004

She may have opted out of the public rolls after then

Sorry for the delay thank you so much . On the wedding certificate Jose's father was Manuel Adrio a retired policeman How do I find out if it was the English police force please?. Yesterday I found a 1910 Spanish census which named a Adrio family in Lugo in Spain with a Jose & Manuel Adrio listed. Jose M was repatriated to Cuba and arrived in Ellis Island USA. I have also been told that General Franco destroyed thousands of documents during his time . That is all so far

Thanking you all
Sheila

From the National Archives website:

Only the records of the Metropolitan Police, the Royal Irish Constabulary and a few relating to the Transport Police are held at The National Archives.

http://tinyurl.com/q8zpf5q

On the Ellis Island website, there is a Manuel Adrio listed. He was born c 1900, was a US citizen and listed Havana, Cuba as his last place of residence. He was in transit to Cadiz, Spain.

http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/passenger-details/czoxMjoiMTAzMzQzMDQwMjI1Ijs=/czo5OiJwYXNzZW5nZXIiOw==


This is the same record on ancestry. He and a lot of other young men are all described as 'seldriers' or 'soldriers.'They are going to Melilla.



Name: Manuel Adrie
Arrival Date: 10 Sep 1921
Birth Date: abt 1900
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Spanish
Port of Departure: Havana,cub
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Antonio Lopez


I wonder if this has anything to do with their journey?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Legion


In the 1920s the Spanish Legion's five battalions were filled primarily by native Spaniards (since foreigners were not easy to recruit) with most of its foreign members coming from the Republic of Cuba.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Annual

The Battle of Annual was fought on July 22, 1921, at Annual in Spanish Morocco, between the Spanish Army of Africa and Berber combatants of the Rif region during the Rif War. The Spanish suffered a major military defeat, almost always referred to by the Spanish as the Disaster of Annual, which led to major political crises and a redefinition of Spanish colonial policy toward the Rif.



Melilla was only some 40 km away, but was in no position to help: the city was almost defenceless and lacked properly trained troops. The Spanish quickly reinforced Melilla with 14,000 men from the Spanish Legion and other units.

Thank you so much for that Alviegal sorry for not thanking you before . Time zones and dinner in Queensland . I must take a hard copy and have a copy and read thank you

Sheilafromdownunder

I have has another thought . Can you please tell be how he got to England ? in the 1980 when his 47 year old son Jose married ,on the g r o certificate Manuel was a retired policeman



Thanks Sheila

He may not have been a policeman in UK, Sheila.
He may not have been in the UK at all.

Or does the cert give some indication that he was in the UK?

Even if he was, there aren't online records for such relatively recent travel.

Thank you AngllGran I agree, all it said on the certificate was that Manuel was a retired policeman .

I can't find where or when Jose arrived in England , He was a Spray Painter according the certificate aged 47 as he married he must have arrived in the uk at some time . Would he have been able to marry in a Registry Office if he was illegal ?

As already said, there aren't online records for relatively recent travel or immigration.