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Christina Sara Lloyd b 19/10/1892

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Autumnleaves

Autumnleaves Report 27 Oct 2016 17:03


Freebmd has the marriage listed as

Gordon S Wallace

Christina LLoyd .- with BS in brackets after her name

could that mean British Subject and that she was born abroad ?

Sorry for delay in posting but message disappeared on me twice last night.

Genes also had it listed under Gordon B Wallace ???

Gerry

Gerry Report 27 Oct 2016 17:03

Been through the Forces War Records on their website. Found ONE possible John Lloyd in that he was a Sergeant (no Major included) in the Army Service Corps. The possible problem is that his record, which refers to a medal (DCM) is dated 1916

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 27 Oct 2016 18:41

Autumnleaves....

I also found that one and [ ] apparently means the transcriber could not identify for certain the initial following the Christian name so those "possible" eg a B or S are put in brackets...Thought the same as you British Subject..!!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Oct 2016 07:01

So that Ancestry tree holder has made the same assumption that the Welsh birth is the right lady even though the birth date differs

The 1939 register and death cert both have the same date so Christina was sure of her birthday :-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Oct 2016 08:33

(reference for DCM should be on below, Ancestry)

Chris :)

UK, Citations of the Distinguished Conduct Medal, 1914-1920

Kay????

Kay???? Report 28 Oct 2016 20:12

Surname Given Name District Volume Page Transcriber
Births Mar 1893
Lloyd Christina W. Ham 4a 255.

If she was a late registration it maybe her birth was entered into the next quarterly returns,?if born Oct 1892.

-----------------------------------------------------
CHRISTINA LLOYD
England & Wales births 1837-2006
Collections from
Great Britain
Country
England
County
Lancashire
Year
1893
Birth Year
1893
Event Quarter
1
District
OLDHAM

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2016 09:26

It's possible her father was in the Army during the Boar war so may have been killed earlier than ww1

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2016 09:29

That Oldham birth passed away at a youngster

First name(s) CHRISTINA
Last name LLOYD
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1892
Age 3
Death quarter 4
Death year 1895
District OLDHAM
County Lancashire
Volume 8D
Page 540
Country England


The Christina born East Ham is on the 1901 census an her father is Arthur Lloyd so not the right birth either

Kay????

Kay???? Report 29 Oct 2016 10:27

Gordon S Wallace also has a WW1 record in it it lists wife as Christina Sarah Lloyd and date of marriage plus listed named children &dob up to 1926.

Can any lead be got from the marriage certificate,,address check,witnesses.?

She could have taken a stepfathers details.Is there any bapt for a Christina Sarah in London, Ancestry allows omitting a surname.

Potty

Potty Report 29 Oct 2016 11:58

Ancestry has the image of the parish record for the marriage; witnesses were J W Mead and H L Tiller. The marriage was by licence, not Banns.

Even if Christina was abroad in 1911, if she was with her father and he was in the Army, she should be on the census - Service personnel and their families were included.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 29 Oct 2016 16:18

Kay- see page 1- address was checked, John Tiller living at the address she gave.

Looking at the writing, I think the witness could be I W Mead (the I looks a little like a J).
Maybe Isiah William Mead?

Potty

Potty Report 30 Oct 2016 12:39

Austin, think you are right about it being Isiah William Mead - his service record has his signature on it and it is the same as the one on the marriage entry.

In Gordon's Service record their is a partly burnt page which has Christina's address on. Part is burnt but it looks like C/o Mrs T (Tiller?), Red Lion, Woo.

So, we have traced the witnesses but still doesn't help with Christina!