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http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

(if you use Person Search, then William Bosisto (similar surnames ticked) you will see children...

Chris :)

(mind you, as you have been searching for a long time, don't think you need me to tell you!, above as you know is very useful for Cornwall, good job we have it, I'm nowhere near to County, or familiar with Parishes, maps or google used here!)


http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1338148?d=asc

(and just came across above on google, no,don't ask me to go 'back' there, lol)

So eliminate India - red herring on ancestry.
Eliminate Catherine Basset Harris whatever circumstances of birth, baptism and marriage of parents because with them in 1841 and 1851.
Sarah/Sally Basset/Tippet born 1796.
Only one is sister of Wiiliam Strongman Bosisto b1790. He married Jane Buzza in 1811 and in 1812 had a son also baptised William Strongman Bosisto.
Need to check : Susan Catherine Bosisto c1828-1846
Any children of WSB and Jane Buzza.
Any other Sarah/Sally Bosisto + variants born in 1790s on Cornwall.....

Don't know about eliminations, think it needs dynamite, lol...

(Bassett Marriage, Bosisto Birth, Sarah, then Sally, then a WSB Marriage to a Catherine Harris somewhere...)

Chris :)

I am going to print all this as trying to compare info and sort duplicates is impossible online.
Elizabeth Pascoe is an aunt of Thomas Tippet whose mother was Grace Pasco.
Thank you for all digging. It looks like I am still facing a breick wall but if I can work more eliminations then I may get over it.
Lots of thanks and happy Xmas.
Anita

Sally and Thomas had child Martin PASCOE Tippett. On the 1841 census, underneath Catherine Bassett is an Elizabeth Pascoe age 75- have you tried tracing her to see if she connects to the family? (although I suspect she relates to the Tippetts)

Day Month 14-Oct
Year 1832
Parish Or Reg District Kea
Forename Martin Pascoe
Surname TIPPETT
Sex
Father Forename Thomas
Mother Forename Sally
Residence Hagus
Father Rank Profession miner
-------------------------------

Burial:
Day Month 05-Nov
Year 1849
Parish Or Reg District Kea
Forename Elizabeth
Surname PASCOE
Age 85
Residence Tomperra
-------------------------------------------

EDIT- Yes looks to be related to the Tippetts- Elizabeth Tippett married Martyn Pascoe in 1820.

(this isn't sister Sarah of WSB is it?)

Chris :)

Day Month 10-Mar
Year 1818
Parish Or Reg District Helston
Groom Fn John
Groom Sn TRESIDDER
Groom Age
Groom Residence Helston
Groom Condition
Groom Rank Profession
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M)
Groom Father Name
Groom Father Rank Profession
Bride Fn Sarah
Bride Sn BOSISTO
Bride Age
Bride Residence Helston
Bride Condition
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M)
Bride Father Name
Bride Father Rank Profession
Banns / Licence (B/L) banns
Witness Fn1 William
Witness Sn1 Bosisto
Witness Fn2 Jane
Witness Sn2 Tresidder


(reference)

Day Month 06-Mar
Year 1796
Parish Or Reg District Helston
Forename Sarah
Surname BOSISTO
Sex Dau
Father Forename Wm
Mother Forename Eliz'th

I think you need to start again. You're wanting to trace the parents of Sally/ Sarah Bassett that married Thomas Tippett in 1816 in the parish of Kea, Cornwall (Witnesses were Henry Shewes? & Mary Deeble)

This is Sally Bassett and Thomas Tippett in 1841:

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Tomperrow, Kea, Truro, Cornwall, England

Thos Tippett Male 45 1796 Cornwall, England
Sally Tippett Female 45 1796 Cornwall, England
Wm Tippett Male 15 1826 Cornwall, England
George Tippett Male 16 1825 Cornwall, England
Catherine Tippett Female 13 1828 Cornwall, England
Martin Tippett Male 11 1830 Cornwall, England
John Tippett Male 9 1832 Cornwall, England
Sally Tippett Female 6 1835 Cornwall, England
Harriot Tippett Female 5 1836 Cornwall, England
Catherine Basset Female 15 1826 Cornwall, England
-----------------------------------------

Based on the surname, you thought that Catherine could be a relative of Sallys.

As I posted earlier- Catherine could have been as old as 19 as the ages of people over 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5.

You don't seem to be considering the other evidence that's been given.

William married Jane Buzza. This is them in 1841:

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Union Place, St Mary, Truro, Cornwall, England

William Bosustow Male 50 1791 Cornwall, England
Jane Bosustow Female 55 1786 Cornwall, England
Ellen Bosustow Female 14 1827 Cornwall, England
Sarah Bosustow Female 12 1829 Cornwall, England
-----------------------------------------

And in 1851:

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Middle Rosewin, St Clement, Truro, Cornwall, England

William Basisto Head Married Male 61 1790 Cordwainer Helston, Cornwall, England
Jane Basisto Wife Married Female 63 1788 - Kea, Cornwall, England
Sarah Basisto Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1829 Dress Maker Truro, Cornwall,
--------------------------------------------------

The children baptised in Bethsada Independent Chapel, were brought up with surname Harris (middle name Bassett). Both Catherine and John appear on the 1841 as Harris, with parents, William Harris (Miller) and Catherine Harris.- As has been posted above.

So what do you think of 1811 WSB Marriage then?...

Chris :)

Name: William Strongman Bosisto
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 26 Dec 1790
Baptism Place: Helston,Cornwall,England
Father: William Bosisto
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 916939


County Cornwall
Place Helston
Church name St Michael
Register type Phillimore's Transcripts
Marriage date 22 Jul 1811
Groom forename William
Groom surname BOSISTO
Bride forename Jane
Bride surname BUZZA


County Cornwall
Place Helston
Church name St Michael
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1029
Marriage date 02 Jul 1811
Groom forename William
Groom surname BOSISTO
Groom abode Helston
Bride forename Jane
Bride surname BUZZA
Bride abode Helston
Witness ? BUZZA
Witness Mary MATTHEWS
Register note Bride and groom signed with a mark


All England, Pallot's Marriage Index, 1780-1837 (Ancestry)

Wm Bosisto
Jane Buzza 1811 Helston Cornwall


Name: Wm Strongman Bosisto
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 15 Nov 1812
Baptism Place: Helston,Cornwall,England
Father: William Bosisto
Mother: Jane


You state WSB had a wife called Catherine Harris - but where was this Marriage?...

(how many WSB's are there?, lol)

I cannot sit here most days. So sorry for delays.
I am not looking for William Bosistos apart from William Strongman Bosisto, identified above born 1790. Parents William Bosisto and Elizabeth Strongman.
WSB had a wife called Catherine Harris - baptisms at Bethsada Independent.
If I can find WSB and wife Catherine in 1841 or identify deaths pre 1841 then it may help with who Catherine Basset age 15 with Sally Tippet nee Basset in the 1841 census.
Sally is the person I need to find ancestors for.
Anita

It's all very confusing- the Catherine Bassett/ Bissett on the 1841 census with Sally Tippett is not this Catherine:

Catharine Basset
Birth date 18 Jan 1827
Baptism year 1829
Baptism date 17 Apr 1829
Place St Columb
Denomination Independent
Father's first name(s) Wm (occupation Miller)
Mother's first name(s) Cathane Harris

The above Catherine had middle name Bassett, surname Harris- this is her with parents in 1841:

Name: Catherine Harris
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Gender: Female
Where born: Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Columb Major
Hundred: Pyder
County/Island: Cornwall
Registration district: St Columb Major
Sub-registration district: St Columb
Piece: 149
Book: 7 Folio: 61 Page Number: 3

William Harris 40 Miller
Catherine Harris 40
Catherine Harris 12
Philippa Harris 8
John Harris 5
Mary Harris 2
Elizabeth Harris 2
-------------------------------------------

The Catherine with Sally Tippett is 15 in 1841. As ages are rounded down she could be as old as 19.

Dear Anita..it's almost impossible to help without knowing how you got back ..and what back up you have. There are lots of Williams...and a response to Gins et al would help us to help you

Jude

Oh, I see that the poster has not come back since the new, probable accurate information has been found, such a shame

I have sent a PM but no reply as yet

Well I can't fathom things, lol, but where does below fit in then (as posted earlier)...

Chris :)

County Cornwall
Place Helston
Church name St Michael
Register type Phillimore's Transcripts
Marriage date 22 Jul 1811
Groom forename William
Groom surname BOSISTO
Bride forename Jane
Bride surname BUZZA


County Cornwall
Place Helston
Church name St Michael
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1029
Marriage date 02 Jul 1811
Groom forename William
Groom surname BOSISTO
Groom abode Helston
Bride forename Jane
Bride surname BUZZA
Bride abode Helston
Witness ? BUZZA
Witness Mary MATTHEWS
Register note Bride and groom signed with a mark

http://www.freereg.org.uk/


(and just because of surname for Williams, there was below)

Day Month 30-Dec
Year 1832
Parish Or Reg District Truro, St. Mary
Groom Fn William
Groom Sn BOSESTO
Groom Age
Groom Residence otp
Groom Condition
Groom Rank Profession
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Groom Father Name
Groom Father Rank Profession
Bride Fn Sally
Bride Sn NICHOLS
Bride Age
Bride Residence otp
Bride Condition
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Bride Father Name
Bride Father Rank Profession
Banns / Licence (B/L) B
Witness Fn1 William
Witness Sn1 Bosisto, Senr.
Witness Fn2 Joseph
Witness Sn2 Barrett
Other Information
Transcriber Notes Groom signed Bosisto. Bride signed Nicholls
Transcriber C Williams/J Mitchell

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/


AustinQ Report 10 Dec 2016 15:41

Name: William Strongman Bosisto
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 26 Dec 1790
Baptism Place: Helston,Cornwall,England
Father: William Bosisto
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 916939


Name: Wm Strongman Bosisto
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 15 Nov 1812
Baptism Place: Helston,Cornwall,England
Father: William Bosisto
Mother: Jane


Edits (also to William/Jane, James 1816 Joseph 1819)

IF the various ideas that Catherine was illegitimate and baptised with her mother's surname, after mother and father married (??!) then I need to see if that Kitty Basset had a sister born mid 1790s!
Still trying for that family link.
A

OK. I believe the entry by AustinQ with mother called Jane is an error by vicar on entry. There is no marriage for a William Bosisto/Jane anywhere in Cornwall.So
Ist marriage is William Bosisto (1759-1822) to Elizabeth Strongman 2 May 1782 at Magwan in Pydar
Their son is William Strongman Bosisto
2nd marriage is WSB (1790- ) to Catherine Harris , information from the two baptisms above at Bethsada Independent naming mother of Catherine and John
Catherine is then in 1841 with Sarah Tippet nee Basset (on marriage cert) aged 15. Cath. possible death as above in 1846 age 18.
My Sarah Tippet Basset born 1796 (age consistent in census and DC) died in 1864; not on the date ever other tree on ancestry has (copied from each other no doubt).

All the above helps and indicates there is a second Catherine Basset in Cornwall and the one in India is not 'mine'

WSB has a sister Sarah 1795-1795 then another 1796. The shift in name is common. The name Bosisto gradually vanishes into Bisset, Basset.

My problem still is linking Catherine in 1841 to Sarah somehow through family. Sarah was not the sort to take in a stranger and the family were very poor.
Need to look at the other Catherine found above.
Anita :-S

Bombay Times and Journal of Commerce Bombay Times and Journal of Commerce
Entry from Deaths 1840

Surname Bisset
Given name(s) Catherine
Year 1840
month Apr
day 17
Register Entry At Trichinopoly on Fri 17th Apr Catherine the infant daughter of Lieut and Adjutant Bisset 15th Regt aged 4 months and 17 days
Edition Year 1840
Edition Date 6 May

http://www.fibis.org/


Name: unrecorded) Bissett
Event type:
Birth
Date:
15 - May
Year: 1843
Location:
Parents:
Notes: At Palamcottah, the lady of Lieut. and Adj. Bissett, 15th N.I., of a daughter.

http://indiafamily.bl.uk/ui/Home.aspx


(see 1807 Biography on below)

http://indiafamily.bl.uk/ui/Advancediscovery.aspx

Chris :)

Edits (possible to go with 1827 Marriage)

Day Month 06-Aug
Year 1798
Parish Or Reg District Stephen in Brannel, St.
Forename Catherin
Surname BASSETT
Sex dau
Father Forename John
Mother Forename Mary
Residence
Father Rank Profession
Notes born June 5
Transcriber Notes
Transcriber John Evans

From Cornwall OPC (no image):

Day Month 13-Nov
Year 1827
Parish Or Reg District Stephen in Brannel, St.
Groom Fn William
Groom Sn HARRIS
Groom Residence St Columb Major
Groom Rank Profession
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Groom Father Name
Groom Father Rank Profession
Bride Fn Kitty
Bride Sn BASSETT
Bride Residence St Stephen in Brannel
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Bride Father Name
Bride Father Rank Profession
Banns / Licence (B/L) B
Witness Fn1 John
Witness Sn1 Bassett
Witness Fn2 Richard
Witness Sn2 Rowse
Other Information: with consent of parents

Transcriber Notes The Register records the bride's surname as Basset, but she signed Bassett (as does one of the witnesses)

Transcriber John Evans
------------------------------------------

It does look to be the correct marriage- parents on the baptism of John and Catherine are William and Catherine Harris. It seems (confirmed by the death of John) that their middle names were Bassett

Please look at Gins post above- needs looking into, and don't want it to be ignored, just wanted to get this down:

Anita:

"The death I still need is the one green leaved on ancestry: William Bisset (variation in several PR entries for Bosisto, as is Basset) wife Catherine, daughter Catherine"

I don't see a death on Ancestry that matches quite what you're saying- however, if you don't have World access I'm wondering if this is what was 'greenleaved'?: (If not, can please show the information that is given from the 'greenleaf')

India, Select Deaths and Burials, 1719-1948
Name: William Bisset
Gender: Male
Spouse: Catherine
Child: Catherine Bisset

If so, then it's actually a death record for daughter Catherine, and not William. Two come up with the same basic info as I've just given- these are the details when you open them:

Name: Catherine Bisset
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 18 Apr 1840
Burial Place: Trichinopoly, Madras, India
Father: William Bisset
Mother: Catherine
FHL Film Number: 521842

Catherine Bisset
Gender: Female
Age: 0
Birth Date: 1843
Burial Date: 9 Sep 1843
Burial Place: Palamcottah, Madras, India
Father: William Bisset
Mother: Catherine
FHL Film Number: 521843

So unlikely to be related.

There is a Catherine Basset born in 1798. Now here's a curve ball.

On the 1851 that Chris posted, Catherine uses the name 'Harris'

Could there have been a little mix up of names either in the parish records or when undertaking the research for the couple, the researcher became confused with the names? Or, could the names below, be correct!


Marriage date 13 Nov 1827

Parish St Stephen in Brannel

Place ST STEPHEN IN BRANNEL

Groom's first name(s) William

Groom's last name HARRIS <<<<<<<<<<<<<

Bride's first name(s) Kitty

Bride's last name BASSET <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Record set Cornwall Marriages

There is no image to check on FMP. If one exists, you girls will find it
:-)

Added: The above marriage may be the reason why daughter Catherine, although born before the marriage of above, was not baptised until 2 years after her birth

Added again!

CATHARINE

Last name HARRIS

Birth year 1798

Baptism date 25 Feb 1798

Father's first name(s) John

Father's last name HARRIS

Mother's first name(s) Margery

Place FALMOUTH