The marriage certificate of Ernest and Rachel should confirm her Father's name and occupation, but area fits
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Haymerle Road, Camberwell, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Crocker Head Married Male 51 1840 Boiler Fitter Deptford, Kent, England Emma Crocker Wife Married Female 52 1839 - Kensal Green David Crocker Son Single Male 15 1876 Apprentice Sealing Warehouseman Deptford, Kent, England Joseph Crocker Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Deptford, Kent, England Rachael Crocker Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Deptford, Kent, England Stephen Crocker Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Deptford, Kent, England
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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: CROCKER, RACHEL ANDREWS Order GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 928
Other children showing on 1891 census show on GRO online as having mmn as Andrews
--------------------------------------- England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
First name(s) GEORGE Last name CROCKER Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1862 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ GEORGE CROCKER married one of these people SOPHIA GOODENOUGH, EMMA ANDREWS District ST. GEORGE SOUTHWARK District number - County London Country England Volume 1D Page 179
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Thanks greyghost, I know My grandmother Grace had a sister called Alice but am unaware of an Elsie. There were also sisters Winifred and Beatrice who I used to meet a lot when I was a child. Looks like her husband Ernest Tedman died in 1907 and she marries a Frank Steggall in 1910. Between the marriages Rachel goes in and out of a workhouse with some of her children but never all of them at the same time.
Regards ......... Gary
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Thanks also to heyjude and chrisho. My grandfather Hector definitely worked in a chocolate factory in the mid 1960's as I can remember him bringing chocolate home for us at easter. The family always said that he had made the easter eggs at work. And after Hector died in Bellingham, Catford his wife, Grace, moved to Ashford , Kent. She died there in '86. Like you, heyjude, I cannot find anything about his birth though. Happy new year to you all. I'll try again in 2017. Regards .... Gary. ooops it IS 2017
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SAFC - Abby, Today I received the wedding certificate for my grandparents Hector and Grace. I will try to scan it tommorrow but the details are : Date married : 25/04/1931 Name of Male : Hector Macdonald Davey. ( I always thought it was McDonald) Age 30 ( Doesn't fit with the year of birth I have 1998 ) Profession : Chocolate Maker. ( I remember my grandfather used to give us easter eggs he said were from the chocolate factory he worked in. This was in the mid 1960's ) Residence at time of marriage : 4 cockles Cottages, Speedwell Street, Deptford. Father : George Robert Davey
Name of female : Grace Tedman Age : 26 years. Profession : Domestic Cook. Residence : 110 Rectory Buildings, Deptford. Father : William Ernest Tedman (Deceased). ( Could this be Ernest William ?) Both fathers are listed as having the profession of CARMAN. (?) Married in Deptford Registry Office.
As I think I mentioned in an earlier post, there were rumours that my grandfather (Hector Davey) had some sort of secret regarding his past but I still do not know what it may be. Does it look a little strange that my grandparents didn't get married 'till he was 30 years old and my grandmother was 26 ......... I always thought that people got married quite young in those days. Anyway, it's time for bed. Regards ........... Gary
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With the father named as George Robert Davey that confirms the 1901 census with Hector listed as Hector J
So somewhere along the line he decided to change his second name to Macdonald
Whoever reg his death only quoted one christian name
It certainly looks like his birth wasn't reg too
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1911'census Name: George Davey Age in 1911: 46 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil Parish: Deptford St Nicholas Search Photos: Search for 'Deptford St Nicholas' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 92 Grove Street, Deptford Marital Status: Married Occupation: CAR MAN GENERAL CARRIER Registration district: Greenwich Registration District Number: 28 Sub-registration district: Deptford East ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Piece: 2640 Household Members: Name Age George Davey 46 Mary Davey 46 Violet Davey 14 Hector Davey 12 Charles Davey 9 Victor Davey 4 Stanley Davey 3
Married 29 years 18 children born 10 still living How sad they lost 8 children
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Thanks Shirley, It certainly looks like you're right about my grandfather Hector. His baptism record has him as Hector James, although the date says June 25th 1898. His actual birthday was July 25th 1898 as far as I know but the baptism record also has another date crossed out for his birth so there may have been some mistakes during the baptism. Maybe my nan deliberately left his middle name off the death registration for a reason .... i.e. she knew he wasn't really Macdonald as everyone thought ? It looks like I'm finally on the right track now. Regards ....... Gary
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