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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 Jan 2017 11:22

Deaths Dec 1858 (>99%)
Moon Grace Rotherham 9c 29_


Grace Moon in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Grace Moon
Death Date: 3 Nov 1858
Death Place: York, England
Probate Date: 13 Dec 1858
Registry: Wakefield

Late of Maresborough (I am assuming that should actually read "Knaresbourough") in the parish of Rotherham in the County of York....spinster...

By the oath of Mary Wikeley Of "Maresborough" aforesaid Widow the sister and sole Executrix.

Effects: Under £300

Mary Moon in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: Mary Moon....Spinster
Marriage or Bann Date: 13 Jan 1828
Spouse: James Wikeley ...Of Knaresborough...Flax Spinner
Witnesses: Henry Vipont and Mary?? Andrew??


Mary Wikeley in the 1851 England Census

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Thornhill, Kimberworth, Rotherham, Yorkshire, England

James Wikeley Head Married Male 53 1798 Cleark In Canal Office Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England
Mary Wikeley Wife Married Female 49 1802 - Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England
John Wikeley Son - Male 15 1836 - Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England
William Wikeley Son - Male 12 1839 - Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England
Edward Wikeley Son - Male 10 1841 - Fewston, Yorkshire, England
Frederick Wikeley Son - Male 7 1844 - Fewston, Yorkshire, England


A bit of a mess the 1841 census and difficult to decipher!

Mary H?? in the 1841 England Census

Mary H??
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Fewston
Hundred: Claro (Lower Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Pateley Bridge
Sub-registration district: Thornthwaite
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1284
Book: 14
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
James H??
Mary H?? 35
Benjamin H?? 9
James H?? 7
John H?? 4
William H??
Edward H??
Jane 17

Benjamin Wikeley in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Benjamin Wikeley
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 25 Dec 1832
Baptism Place: Knaresborough,York,England
Father: James Wikeley
Mother: Mary

John Gavin Wikeley in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: John Gavin Wikeley
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 17 Jul 1836
Baptism Place: Fewston,York,England
Father: James Wikeley
Mother: Mary






ian

ian Report 23 Jan 2017 10:02

thank you all for the great info ian

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Jan 2017 22:18

William (Arthur) in 1861 ??

Arthur Stirling
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Arthur Stirling
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: 1827
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: Bristol St Stephen
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: Castle Precincts
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 1716
Folio: 76
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Banwell 43
Susan Young 27
Emma Lewis 19
Eliza Gosgrove 10
Arthur Stirling 34 - lodger, DRAMATIC ARTIST
Lara Stirling 24 [looks like Sara on image - but it could be Jane] born Sussex, no occupation, lodger.

I think it says Arthur's unmarried , and Sara's married, but it's hard to decipher the handwriting.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Jan 2017 20:10

In the divorce proceedings the petitioner William Rogers Arthur Stirling says that he married Frances Vipont Herbert Stirling then France Vipont Herbert Barlow, widow., 4 June 1870 and had 2 children with her, Arthur Loftus Herbert Stirling born 18 April 1872 and William George Rogers Stirling born 3 Oct. 1873.

William Roger Arthur Stirling

in the U.K., Civil Divorce Records, 1858-1915
Record Image View

Name: William Roger Arthur Stirling
Gender: Male
Record Type: Husband's petition for divorce
Petition Year: 1874
Spouse: Frances Stirling
Co-Respondent 1: Crane
Co-Respondent 2: Fitz-Simons
Co-Respondent 3: Chandler
Co-Respondent 4: March
Divorce Court File Number: 3499

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 21 Jan 2017 16:56

http://www.cliftonrfchistory.co.uk/memorial/India/barlow.htm

(Harry Walter Barlow. He was born on the 2nd February 1864. Son of Henry Walter Barlow and Frances Vipont Herbert (nee Thorpe). His father died in 1867 when Harry was 3 and his mother remarried William Rogers Arthur Stirling and Harry was living with them in Chelsea during the 1871 census....

Raised in the home of his guardian & uncle OTB Postmaster of Bath, with his brother educ Clifton & Neuenheim near Heidelburg (at an English school kept by a Dr Klose);Clifton College 1880-1881. Sandhurst.

Married 28th July 1887 Mable Moore in Stourbridge. Divorced by his wife and married the corespondant Ada Branson in 1890)...(read for more info.)


(above looks to relate, from google search)

Chris :)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Jan 2017 16:52

I think this may be the 1851 mentioned in the opening post:


Arthur Stirling
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Arthur Stirling
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Stirling
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: THEATRICAL PERFORMER
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Waterloo Road Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Piece: 1570
Folio: 499
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Stirling 26
Elizabeth Stirling 27 - THEATRICAL PERFORMER, b Plymouth


(This sounds familiar - have we done something on this man before ??)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 21 Jan 2017 16:24

Saw below, if relating...

Chris :)

21 April 1860 - Morning Chronicle - London, London, England

Marriage
Barlow - Thorpe - On the 18th inst., at St. George's, Hanover- square, Henry Walter, youngest son of George Barlow, Esq., to Frances Vipont Herbert, only daughter of the late Francis Thorpe, Esq.


15 May 1875 - London Daily News - London, London, England

Death
Stirling - May 10, at Hastings, Frances Vipont Herbert Stirling, wife of W. R. A. Stirling, of The Chestnuts, Lavender- Hill Surrey.

Andrew

Andrew Report 21 Jan 2017 15:17

Can't see the 1851 mentioned in opening post for William and Elizabeth.

Andy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jan 2017 14:44

Ian are you interested in further info regarding Jane Vipont nee Moon?

Going backwards......I have found some further info if it's of interest to you?

Prickles.;o))

Ah, Maryb has now edited and posted the info i found

On the Vipont/Thorpe marriage, Jane's father is James Moon.

It seems Grace is her sister....

Grace Moon

in the Web: Global, Gravestone Photograph Index, 1265-2014
Name: Grace Moon
Birth Year: 1796
Burial Year: 1858
Burial Place: Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England
Death Age: 62
Cemetery: St John the Baptist
Relationship: daughter of James Moon

Francis Thorpe Esq on the 1841 and 1851 census with Grace, is probably the Francis who married Jane Vipont nee Moon in 1852.

Death of Mother Ann......

Ann Moon in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ann Moon
Registration Year: 1850
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Knaresborough
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 23
Page: 283


Ann Moon in the Web: Global, Gravestone Photograph Index, 1265-2014
Name: Ann Moon
Birth Year: 1767
Burial Year: 1850
Burial Place: Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England
Death Age: 83
Cemetery: St John the Baptist
Relationship: wife of James Moon


HERBERT, FRANCES VIPOND MOON
GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in GREENWICH UNION Volume 05 Page 215



Possibly another child belonging to John and Jane.....

Elizabeth Vipont in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Elizabeth Vipont
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 20 Apr 1829
Baptism Place: Knaresborough,York,England
Father: John Vipont
Mother: Jane



Mary

Mary Report 21 Jan 2017 14:27

1841 Knaresborough
Ann Moon
Grace Moon 1797-1858 daughter of James Moon buried Knaresborough.
Ann Vipont 7
Francis thorp 1792-1852 Flax merchant.

1851 Knaresborough
Grace Moon housekeeper
Francis Thorpe Flax Spinner manufacturer unmarried died J/a/S 1852.

Here she is
Frances Vipond Herbert born S Qtr 1841 Greenwich Union mum nee Moon V05 P 215.

Frances Vipond Herbert born 29 July baptised 17/10/1841 by Francis Herbert gentleman abode Knaresborough and Jane Vipont Herbert

Maryb.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jan 2017 13:23

Jane Vipont in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Jane Vipont (Widow)
Spouse: Francis Thorpe (Bachelor) Flax Merchant
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Jan 1852
Parish: St Giles, Camberwell
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: James Moon (Gentleman)
Spouse Father: Robert Thorpe (Horse Dealer)
Register Type: Parish Register

ian

ian Report 21 Jan 2017 13:17

thanks for the help

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jan 2017 13:11

It would seem then that she took on the surname of her Stepfather.

Marriages Mar 1852 (>99%)
Thorpe Francis Camberwell 1d 536
Vipont Jane Camberwell 1d 536

Andrew

Andrew Report 21 Jan 2017 13:01

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Jun 1867 (>99%)
Barlow Henry Walter 36 Hastings 2b 24

Andy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jan 2017 12:56

Henry Walter Barlow in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Henry Walter Barlow
Death Date: 27 May 1867
Death Place: Sussex, England
Probate Date: 17 Jan 1868
Registry: Principal Registry

To Frances Vipont Herbert Barlow...widow....of 55 Eversfield Place, St Leonards, Hastings.


Effects Under £600


Henry Walter Barlow in the London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
Name: Henry Walter Barlow
Abode: St Leonards, Hastings.
Record Type: Burial
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Death Date: abt 1867
Burial Date: 1 Jun 1867
Burial Place: St James, St Pancras, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: St James, St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

ian

ian Report 21 Jan 2017 12:55

if her name was Frances Vipont she must have m a Mr Thorpe ? but when?

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Jan 2017 12:53

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Yorkshire Burials Transcription
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First name(s) John
Last name Vipont
Age 40
Birth year 1794
Burial year 1834
Burial date 05 Apr 1834
Burial place Knaresborough, St Mary
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Page 160
Record set Yorkshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Transcription © DC Thomson Family History
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Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Jan 2017 12:49


Yorkshire Baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) Jane
Last name Vipont
Baptism year 1834
Baptism date 12 Mar 1834
Baptism place Knaresborough
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Jane
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive North Yorkshire County Record Office
Archive reference 2015/09/01 00:00:00.000
Page 227
Record set Yorkshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Transcription © DC Thomson Family History

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jan 2017 12:43

Frances H Barlowe in the 1861 England Census
Name: Frances H Barlowe
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry W Barlowe
Gender: Female
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: Hackney
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Piece: 158
Folio: 133
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry W Barlowe 30 (Occ...Something Holder) City of London
Frances H Barlowe 19
Edith A Barlowe 6/12
Jane A Lambert 22
Ann Hill 28
Mary Gandy 36
Martha Godwin 27

Andrew

Andrew Report 21 Jan 2017 12:41

1st marriage for Frances

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1860 (>99%)
Barlow Henry Walter St. Geo. Han. Sq. 1a 336
Thorpe Frances Vipont Herbert St. Geo. Han. Sq. 1a 336


Andy