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Service records for John Wright. b 1873 glasgow

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Jean

Jean Report 27 Jan 2017 14:56

Could someone please look at the service records for John Wright d.o.b. 9/2/1873.
in Calton, Glasgow .

I have him on the 1911 Scottish census living at 31 Kirk Street, Glasgow with brother Henry and cousin Daniel Buttler , but cannot seem to find him after this.

thank you

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jan 2017 16:08

Who were his parents, Jean?

To save us having to spend credits on SP to see 1911, please can you copy/paste the 1901 census (if you've found him on that) - or earlier census?

There are several possibilities in censuses - I can't tell which is the right John Wright. None of the censuses show his birthplace as Calton.

SP isn't showing the birth of any John Wright in Calton in 1870-75.

EDIT: -
Oh yes, I see his birth now, in 1873 in Calton. Strangely, it only shows when I search Glasgow as a whole, but not when searching Calton specifically.



Did he survive WW1?

Jean

Jean Report 27 Jan 2017 16:25

Sorry for not giving parents details.

They are John Wright and Mary nee McCuskey., I have found him on the 1881 living in Kirk Street, with his mother and brother Henry sister Mary and uncle Felix McCuskey .

He is not showing on the 1901, not that I can see anyway.
thank you

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Jan 2017 16:27

? this one - age is correct EDIT - yes, see you have named Felix which confirms it. No brother Henry on this record.

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
74, Kirk Street, Barony, Calton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Felix McCusky Head Unmarried Male 40 1841 Shop Man In Fruit Trade Ireland
Elizabeth Wright Sister Married Female 37 1844 Domestic Duties Ireland
Mary Wright Nephew Unmarried Male 12 1869 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Mary Wright Niece Unmarried Female 10 1871 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
John Wright Nephew Unmarried Male 8 1873 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Jan 2017 16:30

?Still in Kirk Street 1891 - is Henry a brother?

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Kirk Street, Barony, Calton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Wright Lodger Unmarried Male 22 1869 Tramway Car Conductor Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
John Wright Lodger Unmarried Male 18 1873 Pawnbroker Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Unable to see who they are lodging with.

Jean

Jean Report 27 Jan 2017 16:33

Thank you greyghost,

Yes Henry is his older brother, I have his marriage and death certificates, but can't find John .

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Jan 2017 16:38

Is that not John with him in 1891 then?

Here together in 1901, but would appear here to be shown as cousins?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
31, Kirk Street, Glasgow, Calton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Margaret Butler Head Widow Female 66 1835 - Ireland
Henry Wright Nephew Single Male 31 1870 Tramcar Conductor Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
John Wright Son Single Male 27 1874 Iron Driller Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Jean

Jean Report 27 Jan 2017 16:45

The census is wrong , they are brothers,

I am trying to work out who the Margaret Butler is related to, the margaret butler showing is an aunt , their mother's sister.

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Jan 2017 16:54

Well at least you have him in 1901 now. Not seeing a Service record for him, but so many WW1 records were destroyed by fire in WW2.

AG asked if he survived WW1?

Do you actually know he served, he would have been nearing the upper limit age wise when war broke out.

You say you're trying to work out who Margaret Butler is related to, yet you also say she was their Mother's sister ??

Jean

Jean Report 27 Jan 2017 17:03

Sorry, I don't know if he survived WW1, it's just that I can't seem to find a death for him on SP, which I am finding quite difficult to use at the moment even to log on.

Yes the Margaret Butler showing with them is their mothers older sister.

Flip

Flip Report 27 Jan 2017 17:11

Have you tried widening your search - he may have moved south of the border (try 1939 register) or deaths in England/Wales, gone to Ireland or emigrated. Maybe you need to check further afield?

Jean

Jean Report 27 Jan 2017 17:22

Thank you Flip,

I will start to look elsewhere for him now .

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 27 Jan 2017 17:35

Mary, what is his occupation in 1911?

Edit: Sorry, Jean!

Jean

Jean Report 27 Jan 2017 17:47

His occupation is Shopman, Retail Ironmonger.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jan 2017 18:15

Searching SP for a possible death for him is a nightmare!

In the "old" SP, if you entered the person's YOB, it would only show you deaths for people of the right age at death.

Not any more - I've put in his YOB, but SP shows me the death of every John Wright between 1911 and 1973, regardless of age.
627 of them!

malyon

malyon Report 27 Jan 2017 19:02


John Wright
Scotland Census, 1881
Name
John Wright
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1881
Gender
Male
Age
8
Birthplace
Lanarkshire
Registration District
Calton
County
Lanarkshire
Birth Year (Estimated)
1873

malyon

malyon Report 27 Jan 2017 19:05

John Wright
United Kingdom, World War I Service Records
Name
John Wright
Event Type
Military Service
Event Year
1919
Residence Place
Manchester, Lancashire, England
Age
45
Military Company/Regiment
Labour Corps
Military Regiment
307698
Military Battalion
728th Company
Birth Year (Estimated)
1873
Birthplace
Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

malyon

malyon Report 27 Jan 2017 19:06


John Wright
United Kingdom, World War I Service Records
Name
John Wright
Event Type
Military Service
Event Year
1915
Residence Place
Manchester, Lancashire, England
Age
42
Military Company/Regiment
Royal Army Service Corps
Military Regiment
20485
Birth Year (Estimated)
1873
Birthplace
Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

malyon

malyon Report 27 Jan 2017 19:08

john's mother is elizabeth

John Wright
Scotland Births and Baptisms
Name
John Wright
Gender
Male
Birth Date
09 Feb 1873
Birthplace
CALTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name
John Wright
Mother's Name
Elizabeth Mccuskey

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Jan 2017 19:56

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1228606

(past reference on above)

Chris :)

Vera Report 4 Jul 2010 17:23

1891 Scotland.
This is the family with lodgers

Daniel Butler
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 31, Kirk St
Occupation: Furniture Broker
ED: 38
Household schedule number: 80
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1891_256
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Butler 58
Mary Butler 34
Patrick Butler 32
Ellen Butler 30
Daniel Butler 24
Henry Wright 22
John Wright 18