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Would really appreciate any help in trying to trace Honora Collins (nee Malone) born 1826 Ireland (Cork) She moved to Merthyr Tydfil, Wales by 1853, as she married Jeremiah Collins also from Ireland in the Roman Catholic Church Dowlais (I have obtained marriage cert dated 09.08.1853). Found next on the 1861 Census living at Penyrhiw, Ystradyfodwg with Jeremiah and 4 children - Ellin or Ellen, Ketty or Kitty, Hanrour or Honora and Jeremiah. I believe her husband Jeremiah died 01 March 1862 at Penyrhiw (cert. obtained). I am having trouble trying to locate her and children after this. Although Jeremiah (son) - my great grand father has been picked up from the 1881 Cencus with his wife and son. I have considered that she may have re married. Wondering how she would have survived with 4 young children to provide for? Any help would be great!! Practically given up on tracing where exactly they came from in Ireland though - but that's another story!!

Just for our info.


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Penyrhiw, Ystradyfodwg, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Jeremiah Collins Head Married Male 40 1821 Labourer Ireland
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Hannah Collins Wife Married Female 36 1825 Labourers Wife Ireland
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Ellin Collins Daughter - Female 6 1855 - Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales
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Ketty Collins Daughter - Female 4 1857 - Rhigos, Glamorgan, Wales
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Hanrour Collins Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales
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Jeremiah Collins Son - Male 0 1861 - Rhigos, Glamorgan, Wales
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Dennis Triskle Visitor Unmarried Male 40 1821 Labourer Ireland

Yes, that's the one...

Just a thought.




England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

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First name(s) PATRICK
Last name CONNELL
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1864
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ PATRICK CONNELL married one of these people
Sarah Vaughan, Honora Collins
District Merthyr Tydfil
District number -
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 472




1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Jones Court Castle Street, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Patrick Connell Head Married Male 52 1829 Labourer In Iron Works Ireland
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Honora Connell Wife Married Female 52 1829 - Ireland


So sorry, must go but perhaps someone could find this couple in 1871 to see if any of the children are with them?

???? children surname Collins mmn Malone (from new GRO Index)


COLLINS, ELLEN MALONE
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 366

Died .............
COLLINS, ELLEN 0
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 231

COLLINS, ELLEN MALONE
GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 325

COLLINS, CATHARINE MALONE
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 375

COLLINS, HONORA MALONE Order
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 420

COLLINS, JEREMIAH MALONE
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 375



Ketty /Kitty must be Catharine

I can't see any of them in 1871 :-(

http://newspapers.library.wales/search/advanced

(always worth a look round on above, using different keywords, addresses etc., when you have plenty of time!, some Jeremiah)

Chris :)

1861 Dennis Triskle?, don't suppose that should have been Driscoll...


COLLINS, JEREMIAH (33)
GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 277

Fab -thanks all - I'm going to have a good look at these leads!

Rhian :-)

is this her in 1891 ( i hope not ) its a lunatic asylum

Honora
Last name Connell
Relationship -
Marital status Married
Gender Female
Age 61
Birth year 1830
Occupation Housewife --- a labourers wife
Birth town -
Birth county -
Birth place -
Street -
Town Pencoed
Parish Newcastle Higher & Higher
City -
County Glamorganshire
Registration district Bridgend
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 4456
Folio 119
Page 32
Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

HONORA
Last name CONNELL
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1827
Age 73
Death quarter 1
Death year 1900
District Bridgend
County Glamorganshire
Volume 11A
Page 545
Country Wales
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Relating to above

UK, Lunacy Patients Admission Registers, 1846-1912


Name: Honora Connell
Gender: Female
Admission Date: 13 Jul 1880
Institution: Glamorgan
Intitution Place: Glamorgan, Wales


Andy

I hope not too Maddie! I guess I'll have to order the marriage certificate between her and Patrick Connell to confirm if she was a widow named Collins. You guys are great!!

What about This ...

1891....living with wife Honora b Ireland...grandchild Mary Collins 4 yrs b Merthyr.

Name Jeremiah Collins
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Glamorganshire
Parish St Mary Cardiff
Ecclesiastical Parish ST MARY
Registration District Cardiff
Residence Note Millicent Street
Gender Male
Age 63
Marital Status Married
Occupation Lodging House Keeper
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1828
Birthplace Ireland
Page Number 8
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 4394/ 43

find my past version but birth dates way out


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Millicent Street, St Mary Cardiff, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Jeremiah Collins Head Married Male 63 1828 Lodging House Keeper Ireland
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Honora Collins Wife Married Female 50 1841 - Ireland
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John Stiland Lodger Single Male 32 1859 Labourer Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales
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Ellen Stiland Lodger Single Female 27 1864 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
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Mary Ann Turner Lodger Single Female 33 1858 - Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Mary Collins Grandchild - Female 4 1887 - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

JEREMIAH
Last name COLLINS
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1853
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JEREMIAH COLLINS married one of these people
Mary Regan, Honora Malone
District Merthyr Tydfil
District number -

Unfortunately, Jeremiah died in 1862 - at least a Jeremiah Collins died at Penyrhiw, (the place the family lived in 1861 Census). Age about right too - 33 ( I have the death certificate). I think I am right to assume it's him as I can't see any other Jeremiah Collins living at Penyrhiw. Marriage is correct though ( I have the certificate).

So is below your Jeremiah?, with the Swifts 1901, and as Collings 1881, with Elizabeth as Married...(although they have Son John 1880)

Chris :)

Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%)
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COLLINS Jeremiah Merthyr T. 11a 838
James Elizabeth Merthyr T 11a 838


Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
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COLLINS Honora Merthyr T. 11a 932
Swift Charles Merthyr T. 11a 932


Deaths Sep 1934 (>99%)
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Swift Anora 75 Merthyr T. 11a 658


http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3028190/3028194/60/

(snippet on Honora Swift)


Have you found a Burial Record for that Jeremiah 1862?...

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(above has some Merthyr, but not seeing!)

Hi Chris,

There are 2 Jeremiah Collins - father and son. The first one came from Ireland late 1840's early 1850's. This is the Jeremiah that married Honora Malone (born Ireland also) in 1853 in Dowlais, Merthyr Tydfil. Jeremiah and Honora then went on to have 4 children - Jeremiah (born 1861) being the youngest. Jeremiah Senior then died in 1862. Jeremiah Junior went on to marry Elizabeth James in 1882 (yes, eldest son was John). So, I am tending to believe Honora did go on and re marry - it's just finding out who she married from a couple of options. (Thanks for link to Newspaper Library Wales - found a couple of erm interesting articles ;-)

charles swift, marriage posted above


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Commerce Place, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Charles Swift Head Married Male 28 1863 Coal Miner Gloucestershire, England
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Norah Swift Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales
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Henry Reynolds Boarder Single Male 19 1872 Pit Labourer Gloucestershire, England
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William Morris Boarder Single Male 14 1877 Coal Miner Bromsberrow, Gloucestershire, England


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Tudor Cottages, 1, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Charles Swift Head Married Male 38 1863 Coal Hewer Gloucestershire, England
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Ann Swift Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales
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Jeremiah Collins Brother-In-Law Single Male 40 1861 Coal Hewer Glyn Neath, Glamorgan, Wales ???????????????


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
43 Pleasant View St Aberaman Aberdare, Aberdare, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Charles Swift Head Married Male Collier Hewer 48 1863 Dymock Glostershire
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Norah Swift Wife Married Female - 53 1858 Aberaman Glamorganshire

married 24 years, norah's nationality - irish