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This is one i keep putting on the back burner.

I pop him out every now and then, then i give up, and pop him back again! :-|

Before i throw the towel in.......perhaps someone else might be able to find out what happened to him.

Here goes........

William James Porter

William James Porter in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: William James Porter
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: South Stoneham
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c

The son of James William Porter and Mary Ann Dudley.

According to the 1901 and 1911 census records, it seems William actually preferred his middle name of James.


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Crown Street, Portswood, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England

James Porter Head Married Male 40 1861 Plasterer Lymington, Hampshire, England
May Porter Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Southampton, Hampshire, England
Frederick Porter Son Single Male 16 1885 Plasterer Southampton, Hampshire, England
George Porter Son Single Male 14 1887 - Southampton, Hampshire, England
Alfred Porter Son Single Male 12 1889 - Southampton, Hampshire, England
Frank Porter Son Single Male 10 1891 - Southampton, Hampshire, England
Gladys Porter Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Southampton, Hampshire, England
Bert Porter Son Single Male 8 1893 - Southampton, Hampshire, England
May Porter Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Southampton, Hampshire, England
James Porter **** Son Single Male 0 1901 - Southampton, Hampshire, England


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
23 High Crown Street Highfield Southampton, Portswood, Hampshire, England

James Porter Head Married Male Plaster 50 1861 Lymington Hants
Mary Porter Wife Married Female - 46 1865 Southampton
George Porter Son Single Male Boiler Makers Labourer 24 1887 Southampton
Frank Porter Son Single Male Assistant Gardener 19 1892 Southampton
Albert Porter Son Single Male General Porter 17 1894 Southampton
Gladys Porter Daughter Single Female Domestic Servant 15 1896 Southampton
May Porter Daughter Single Female School 13 1898 Southampton
James Porter **** Son Single Male School 10 1901 Southampton
Reginald Porter Son Single Male School 8 1903 Southampton

I am certain this is my James on an incoming passenger list, as he gives the same address as one of his brothers on another passenger list.

James Porter in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: James Porter
Birth Date: abt 1900
Age: 37
Occupaton: Greaser
Proposed Address in UK: Name: 358 Priory Road, St Deny's, Southampton
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 13 Sep 1937
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Warwick Castle
Shipping line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 162527

So he was still alive in 1937

That is the last i see of him.

I have checked the address of....358 Priory Road, St Deny's, Southampton on the 1939 Register.......but there are no family members living at that address at that time.

I found a marriage for a James Porter.......

Marriages Mar 1918 (>99%)
Crowfoot Annie E Porter Southampton 2c 83
Porter James Crowfoot Southampton 2c 83

I found 2 births registered for Annie E Crowfoot

Births Sep 1892 (>99%)
Crowfoot Annie Elizabeth Poole 5a 258

She married in 1920........

Marriages Sep 1920 (>99%)
Abbott Walter C Crowfoot Poole 5a 788
Crowfoot Annie E Abbott Poole 5a 788


Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
Crowfoot Annie Elizabeth Norwich 4b 110

She died in 1900

Deaths Sep 1900 (>99%)
Crowfoot Annie Elizabeth 0 Norwich 4b 87

Not had any luck with a James....William James.... or an Annie E Porter on the 1939 Register.

I don't have access to World Wide records.......so maybe there is something there that i am missing?

Any help........much appreciated.

Thank you.........Prickles. :-)

Just a thought Prickles, the occupation of Greaser is normally associated with ships - could he have been in the Merchant or Royal Navy? Like you I don't have ww access, so can't check for him on shipping lists.

Hi Flip

That was my thoughts too.

He's a member of the ship's crew here, a greaser.

James Porter

in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
View New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: James Porter
Arrival Date: 2 Dec 1939
Birth Date: abt 1900
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Roslin Castle
Search Ship Database: Search for the Roslin Castle in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Oh, well done Margaret!

:-)

The marriage you've found in 1918 would make him just 17, so maybe a bit of a red herring? Although his bride may have been a war widow, so that was not her birth name - but it seems unlikely unless he preferred older women.

Trouble is, if the shipping records found are actually him (and the address in 1937 appears to confirm this) then you've no idea where to look for marriages or deaths unless he can be further traced through shipping records.

the 1939 above

16 years in service
he is 5' 4" and weighs 154 lbs

Thank you Flip, Margaret and Maddie.

At least i am another step forward!

:-)

is this him he has a brother fred


Name
William James Porter
Arrival Date
26 Mar 1952
Arrival Port
Niagara Falls, New York,
Age
51 years 3 months
Birth Year (Estimated)
1901
Birthplace
, Southampton
Birth Country
England
Gender
Male
Race
English
Accompanied by Name
Wife Frances
Departure Contact Name
Brother Fred Porter
Arrival Contact Name
Wife Frances Porter
Photograph Included
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If you think the Border Crossing posted by Malyon is relevant, the image says his brother Fred lived in Southampton.

He originally arrived in 5 May 1944 on the MV Toordis?
His destination was his wife Frances @ 559 West 156th St, NY

Just going to check my records.........

Back soon >>>>>>>>>>>

http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1248698?d=asc

(there you go PH, can't have you disappearing, lol)

Chris :)

(if Navy, should perhaps be something National Archives)

if this is james here's his date of birth


Britain, merchant seamen, 1918-1941 Transcription

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Record set Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941
Series BT364
First name(s) James
Last name Porter
Event year 1918-41
Birth year 1900
Discharge number 1081370
Birth place Southampton
Birth county/country -
Birth date 05 May 1900
Card type CR1
Archive The National Archives
Date range 1918-1941
Category Education & work
Subcategory Merchant navy & maritime
Collections from Great Britain

You clever girl Chris. :-D

Yes......"James" had a brother "Fred"

Frederick James Porter in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Frederick James Porter
Registration Year: 1885
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: South Stoneham
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 56


He is the brother that gave the same address as James on a 1924 passenger's list...

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Frederick James Porter
Name: Frederick James Porter
Gender: Male
Occupation: Plasterer
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Birth Place: Southampton, England
Age: 39
Date of Arrival: Aug 1924
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Bristol, England
Ship Name: Melita
Mother Mrs M Porter 358 Priory Road Southampton

Brilliant Safc

:-)

PricklyHolly

have you got find my past

merchant seaman records are on there

Yes i have Safc.....i will take a look thank you.

Thank you for posting the 1952 passenger's list Malyon......much appreciated.

Please would someone be so kind as to check the image of the 1952 passenger's list that Malyon posted.

Is the wife Frances actually travelling with William James?

If so, does it give any details about her?

It states......."Photogragh Included"........Is there actually a photogragh attached to that record?

Thank you.......Prickles.

Hi Prickles

Does say 'accompanied by Frances' but the image is not good.

Can send an image if you PM email.

Andy

Thanks a lot Andrew.

I will PM you my email address.

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