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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Apr 2017 11:19

That looks likely Shirley. I had tried searching for him using "motor", "mechanic", "driver" but never thought of chauffeur! Well found Shirley :-)

Pauline

Pauline Report 23 Apr 2017 11:16

Thanks Shirley. I would guess that is him. occupation seams to change a bit. but I know he was at the time of the accident, a driver. I thought it was a bus, but I guess drivers where in short supply in those days (you had to be wealthy to have the means to learn) . I would imagine that there will be something in the local papers about the incident. Especially as the newspaper collection was kept in Colindale
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Apr 2017 06:10

Saw this one earlier but discounted it because of the occupation


Household (1 Person)
, Barnet R.D., Hertfordshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) ROLE DOB OCCUPATION
Albert Garner Patient ? ? 1895 Chauffeur
Ref: RG101/1201C/007/35 Letter Code: CHAI
© Findmypast Ltd



Seems to be a home and all males living there

No front or back page to show actual,address

Pauline

Pauline Report 23 Apr 2017 00:58

NYX Thanks for that. Is Jean there with them? she was born 1926 ?

Root Gatherer Yes right Family . Lilian was sister to Ellen Foster the closed one would be jean . As lilian states married, Albert would still have been alive then. I believe he was in a "home", as the accident sent him mental. I am 99% certain he did not remarry,
Malyon, thanks for lillian's death date
Could some one look in 1939 for Albert, in a mental home, please.?(Barnet, maybe?)
Looks like his death was 1965 in Barnet. Right area, as Lilian stayed in colindale all her life, round the corner from wakemans hill.. I am trying to remember if he was mentioned,in family. But i think that maybe it was not talked about in those days (mental illness)

Once again a great help from you all.

As an aside. Lilian , my great aunt, gave me my grandmothers engagement ring on my 21st birthday Which I had not seen before. The ring is 3 sapphire and 2 diamonds. My engagement ring is 2 sapphires and 3 diamonds , which i had 3 years before . I must have had similar taste as granma, who sadly died in 1920, leaving my mum an orphan at 6 years old.

So if some one has 1939 info on Albert. much appreciated
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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Apr 2017 21:14

The Albert C who married Gladys M in Islington isn't the right Albert. They're on the 1939 register together. He was a Postman born 1910.

malyon

malyon Report 22 Apr 2017 19:28

if albert married Florence in 1933 this looks like her death

Deaths Sep 1934   (>99%)

Garner
 Florence R M
 21
 Hampstead
 1a
505

malyon

malyon Report 22 Apr 2017 19:25

Albert C Garner
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005
Marriage Registration
1938
Islington, London, England
spouse:
King
other:
Gladys M King

malyon

malyon Report 22 Apr 2017 19:23

albert could have married again

mentioned in the record of Malyon and Albert C Garner
Name
Albert C Garner
Event Type
Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year
1933
Registration District
Islington
County
London
Event Place
Islington, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911)
Malyon
Volume
1B
Page
425
Line Number
31
 
Albert C Garner probably married one of the following people
Name
Florence R M Malyon

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Apr 2017 19:18

Marriage cert gives his occ' as motor mechanic

: Albert Charles Randolph Garnes
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Age: 25
Spouse: Lilian Maud Rensch
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Nov 1920
Parish: St Matthew
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Charles Garnes
Spouse Father: John Frederick Rensch
Register Type: Parish Register

malyon

malyon Report 22 Apr 2017 19:17

Lilian Maud Garner
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name
Lilian Maud Garner
Event Type
Death Registration
Registration Quarter
Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year
1986
Registration District
Enfield
County
London
Event Place
Enfield, London, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969)
13 Dec 1894
Volume
12
Page
573

malyon

malyon Report 22 Apr 2017 19:13



Albert C Garner
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name
Albert C Garner
Event Type
Census
Event Date
31 Mar 1901
Event Place
Walthamstow, Essex, England
County
Essex
Civil Parish
Walthamstow
Ecclesiastical Parish
St Johns
Sub-District
Walthamstow
Registration District
West Ham
Residence Note
St Johns Road
Gender
Male
Age
6
Relationship to Head of Household
Son
Birth Year (Estimated)
1895
Birthplace
City Of London
Schedule Type
150
Page Number
26
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Charles Garner
Head
M
40
Southwark, London
Louisa Garner
Wife
F
37
Camden Town, Middlesex
Lilian C Garner
Daughter
F
11
City Of London
Horace T Garner
Son
M
7
City Of London
Albert C Garner
Son
M
6
City Of London
Harold H Garner
Son
M
2
City Of London

malyon

malyon Report 22 Apr 2017 19:11

Albert C Garner
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name
Albert C Garner
Event Type
Death
Registration Quarter
Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year
1965
Registration District
Barnet
County
Middlesex
Event Place
Barnet, Middlesex, England
Age (available after 1866)
70
Birth Year (Estimated)
1895
Volume
5A
Page
791
Line Number
122

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Apr 2017 19:09

Just cos it came up


Name: Albert Charles Randolph Garner
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 31 Jul 1898
Father's name: Charles Garner
Mother's name: Louisa Elizabeth Garner
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Stephen Coleman Street
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers
Born 20.12 .1894

Baptised with two other siblings

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Apr 2017 19:08

Shirley, I think this is Lilian in 1939 (DOB matches birth reg.).

She's describing herself as married.

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Foster Household (4 People)
94 Wakemans Hill Avenue , Wembley M.B., Middlesex, England

Lillian M Garner
DOB 13 Dec 1894
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Coil Winder, Electric
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 48
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 4

Arthur J Foster
DOB 29 Jun 1912
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Letter Press Operative
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 48
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Edna E Foster
DOB 27 Nov 1918
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 48
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Ellen B Foster
DOB 22 Jun 1881
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Widowed
SCHEDULE 48
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 3
Ref: RG101/0961A/006/39 Letter Code:
© Findmypast Ltd


1 closed record below Lilian

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Apr 2017 19:07

just for a ref, with Lilian

Name: Albert Garner
Year: 1929
County or Borough: Southwark
Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell
Street address: 140 Albany Road

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Apr 2017 19:05

Not seeing Lilian or Jean a garner on the 1939 register

Maybe Lilian remarried but there's quite a few married for that name from the daughters birth year

No other births mmn Rensch showing after Jean

Pauline

Pauline Report 22 Apr 2017 18:55

I am trying to tie up some loose ends, and hope to get a print out sorted!!

Pauline

Pauline Report 22 Apr 2017 18:54

Shirley
Yes have looked at other Rensch family, but this really about Garner
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Pauline

Pauline Report 22 Apr 2017 18:48

should be 1939 Whoops

Pauline

Pauline Report 22 Apr 2017 18:48

I do not think he was alive in 1029
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