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1881 Census.........

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 May 2017 00:11

Unfortunately, i know all about Knowle Hospital GreyGhost.......My Mum was admitted there 10 years after i was born for Electric Shock treatment after she suffered a nervous breakdown.

Brrrr!.......fortunately she recovered.

Bless her....... <3

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greyghost

greyghost Report 6 May 2017 23:35

If he died in Fareham RD then he was likely in Knowle Hospital

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=369

Now turned into apartments in the old hospital buildings and new housing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowle_HospitalGenealogy[edit] --

All documents and records of the asylum that still exist are held by the Hampshire Records Office in Winchester. The accession number for the collection is 48M94/ and many records relating to former patients are held, including admissions information, case notes, discharge and death registers, postmortem reports and a burial register. A number of these records are contained in volumes that are still subject to a 100-year closure rule; any work on those volumes, for records outside the closure period, must be undertaken by an archivist at the records office on behalf of the public.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 May 2017 18:09

Oh dear.......

Jas Somerton in the UK, Lunacy Patients Admission Registers, 1846-1912
Name: Jas Somerton
Gender: Male
Admission Date: 19 Nov 1880
Institution: Hants
Intitution Place: Hampshire, England
Death Date: 22 Dec 1880
Death Place: Hampshire, England

:-(

So yes Safc.......as sad as it is, you have found the correct information.

Very much appreciated thank you.

Prickles. x

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safc

safc Report 6 May 2017 17:59

PricklyHolly

i always click on

Phonetic search surnames

on free bdm

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 May 2017 17:54

I do believe you are both on the right track!

Safc...........i searched for deaths for Summerton and Sommerton........but not Somerton.

Yes Mary...........his occupation was a "Tailor" and that is exactly where he was living in 1871.

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Mary

Mary Report 6 May 2017 17:48

UK City + county directories
Year 1878
James Summerton a Tailor of Christchurch Street Ringwood Hampshire.
so was he still alive then??

Maryb.

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Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.

safc

safc Report 6 May 2017 17:42

????

Deaths Dec 1880 (>99%)
Somerton James 67 Fareham 2b 334

age out a bit but could be the right one

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 May 2017 16:46

Gosh, i had forgotten all about that thread.

I appologise for that.

There was no mention of the deaths of Eliza Wright and her father James Summerton though.

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 May 2017 15:56

This has all been researched before

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1348910

There's some more info re Fred's army career there (found by Greyghost).
Maybe they were both in Ireland, in 1881.

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 May 2017 15:01

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Christchurch Street, Ringwood, Hampshire, England

Harry Butt Head - Male 34 1837 - Hampshire, England
Transcription
Eliza Butt Wife - Female 29 1842 - Hampshire, England
Transcription
Emma Kate Butt Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Hampshire, England
Transcription
Harry Oliver Butt Son - Male 4 1867 - Hampshire, England
Transcription
Eva Butt Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Hampshire, England
Transcription
Alice Fanny Butt Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Hampshire, England
Transcription
William Butt Son - Male 0 1871 - Hampshire, England
Transcription
James Summerton Father-In-Law - Widower Male 51 1820 - Hampshire, England
Transcription
Albert Summerton Brother-In-Law - Male 21 1850 - Hampshire, England

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 May 2017 14:55

Another thing (As it's so quiet on here)

Emily's father James Summerton born 1820 Romsey, Hampshire

He appears on the 1871 census that GreyGhost mentioned...........then he seems to disappear.

I can't find an appropriate death for him between 1871--1881 though.

In fact there are no deaths registered for a James Summerton between 1871--1881.

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greyghost

greyghost Report 6 May 2017 14:45

Transcribed as Cicily Kate LIMMERTON on FMP's 1871 - no wonder she can't be found on there!!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 May 2017 14:36

I think that is a strong possibilty.

I can't see any other records for a Cicely Kate Summerton.

Thanks Andrew.

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 May 2017 14:34

Yes i noticed that.

:-)

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Andrew

Andrew Report 6 May 2017 14:32

Sorry that should be 1871. Amended.

Andy

malyon

malyon Report 6 May 2017 14:29

if that is her why would she be summerton she married in 1876 to wright

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 May 2017 14:25

There are no births registered for a Cicely Kate Summerton that i can see.

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 May 2017 14:23

That one looks interesting Andrew.

:-)

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Andrew

Andrew Report 6 May 2017 14:13

Possible foe Emily 1871?

Name: Cicely Kate Summerton
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Romsey, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Kingston
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Kingston
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 94
Piece: 860
Folio: 108
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Herbert Smith 41
Margaret Ann Smith 20
Cicely Kate Summerton 26
Phillippa Norton Smith 50


Andy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 May 2017 13:30

Yes it is Malyon...............but my Emily's husband was Fred Wright.

Ahh, you have deleted that now.

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