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No, can't see them anywhere.

They don't' seem to have emigrated, either.

Can any of you find John and Alice on the census?

I can't see any other John Wakeford born c1875, with father George, in 1881 census.

Of course that George might have died before 1881.

But where is Alice in 1901 when John is at his parents, and my gt gt gf is playing house with John's first wife :-0 it gets worse instead of better lol

They are definately the same.

Choccy, i think you're right they do look similar don't they and father's occ is the same.

That's the right one Mel, her mmn was Francis , checked against parents marriage and births of siblings.

as far as I know she did not marry again as William stated he was a widower in 1911, BUT as said I don't have a death cert, the closest is an Annie Fishlock death Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%)
Fishlock Annie 36 Whitechapel 1c 226

I think I will get that as a long shot.

the age is out to birthdate but does tie in with her age given on 1891 census... both she and William were less than accurate about ages, especially his when they married!

Signatures of John Wakeford look suspiciously similar?


London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921


Name:John Wakeford

Estimated birth year:abt 1873

Age:20

Spouse: Caroline Elizabeth Kerchevall

Spouse Age:20

Record Type:Marriage

Event Date:14 Nov 1893

Parish:St John the Evangelist, Hammersmith

Borough:Hammersmith and Fulham

Father Name:George Wakeford

Spouse Father:Henry Kercheval

Register Type:Parish Register



England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921


Name:John Wakeford

Estimated birth year:abt 1874

Age:25

Spouse: Alice Mary Roffe

Spouse Age:24

Record Type:Marriage

Event Date:25 Nov 1899

Parish:St Stephen, Shepherds Bush

Borough:Hammersmith and Fulham

Father Name:George Wakeford

Spouse Father:Abraham Roffe

Register Type:Parish Register

On her birth reg it is Malyon but on her marriage and the census it is variously Anne ( 1871) and Annie M( marriage and 1891) .

WAKEFORD, ANNA MARIA FRANCIS
GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 72

did anna maria fishlock marry again

her name is anna

Anna Maria Wakeford
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name
Anna Maria Wakeford
Event Type
Birth Registration
Registration Quarter
Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year
1865
Registration District
Brentford
County
Middlesex
Event Place
Brentford, Middlesex, England
Volume
3A
Page
72
Line Number
82

Not her either Malyon, Annie was born 1865 Brentford.
Thanks for looking though :-)

Not the one unfortunately Malyon, wrong age and wrong father

name: Caroline Elizabeth Wakeford
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Age: 24
Spouse: Charles William Rowe
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 May 1910
Parish: Emmanuel
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Jesse Wakeford
Spouse Father: Charles Rowe
Register Type: Parish Register

could caroline have married again


Caroline Elizabeth Wakeford
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name
Caroline Elizabeth Wakeford
Event Type
Marriage
Registration Quarter
Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year
1910
Registration District
Islington
County
London
Event Place
Islington, London, England
Volume
1B
Page
345
Line Number
94
 
Caroline Elizabeth Wakeford probably married one of the following people
Name
Charles William Rowe
Name
Charles Jones Turner
Name
Maud Velton Underwood

Found an old thread so please don't look for Mary Kerchevall as a means to find Caroline, as she was not still with her sister or family
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1290254

I'm trying to tie up a few loose ends on my tree which are not absolutely essential to find, but with which I am going round in circles :-)

William Fishlock my gt gt grandfather married his 2nd ( and much younger) wife Annie Maria Wakeford in 1888 ( both his marriages confirmed by certs on Ancestry and I don't need anything on the Fishlocks) . Ann Maria Wakeford's brother John married Caroline Elizabeth Kerchevall

Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
Kerchevall Caroline Elizabeth Fulham 1a 493
Wakeford John Fulham 1a 493

1901 census John is at his parent's home
Name: John Wakeford
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: George Wakeford
Mother: Emily Wakeford
Birth Place: Chiswick, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Chiswick

Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Chiswick
ED, institution, or vessel: 07
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1198
Folio: 40
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
George Wakeford 68
Emily Wakeford 57
John Wakeford 26 married <<<< ( born 1874 confirmed on GRO)
Joseph Wakeford 24
Rose Wakeford 13

Meanwhile Caroline is listed ( either in error or something fishy going on) as wife of William Fishlock, at 140 Teviot Street

Name: William J Fishlock
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Caroline E Fishlock
Birth Place: Isleworth, London, England
Civil Parish: Bromley
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Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Bromley
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 345
Folio: 90
Page Number: 13
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members:
Name Age
William J Fishlock 57
Caroline E Fishlock 27
Mary E Herchivall 10 ( Caroline's sister surname is Kerchevall )

I Know that William J Fishlock is showing as a widower in 1911 living with his son and family and I 'suspect' but don't yet have the cert that his wife Annie may have died 1897 .

But I can't find either John Wakeford or Caroline Elizabeth Wakeford after 1901 or a re-marriage or death between 1901 and 1911 that fits with their ages that I haven't discounted.



baptism for Caroline Name: Caroline Kerchevall
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Jul 1874
Father's name: Henry Kerchevall
Mother's name: Ann Kerchevall
Parish or Poor Law Union: Old Brentford St George
Borough: Hounslow
Register Type: Parish Registers

If anyone's bored I would very much appreciate a second pair of eyes :-D