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No, there isn't. Not on either ScotlandsPeople or FamilySearch.

Per SP, there's no marriage of a George Mitchell and any Boyd in the whole of Scotland 1860-80.

Nor of a George Mitchell to any Jean.

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Could you help me again please Is there a Scottish marriage for George Mitchell and Jean Boyd abt 1880 Dalkeith Area I am still trying to find Aloyasius parents has Jessie must have been grandmother

safc posted the marriage of George and Christina at 1551 today - i wonder if it was Banns or equivalent - this would look to be the actual marriage with a different spelling of McLusky

Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Marriages Transcription
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First name(s) George
Last name Mitchell
Alias George
Marriage year 1841
Marriage date 08 Jan 1841
Denomination Roman Catholic
Parish St Mary
Place Duntocher
Diocese Glasgow
County Dunbartonshire
Country Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) Christina
Spouse's last name McLusky
Spouse's alias Christina
Archive The Scottish Catholic Archives
Reference MP/63
Year range 1841-1967
Volume 01
Section 01
Sub section 04

You can certainly register with Scotlands People and buy credits, which would allow you to see the original census documents, but as AQ says, if George was claiming to be the children's father, that's what will be on the record.

I suppose it's just possible that he wasn't claiming to be their father, but that either the enumerator or the transcriber assumed that he was.

EDIT:

OK, I've had a look at 1891, and the sons are definitely listed as sons.
But as already said, that doesn't necessarily make it true.

I don't think the original will tell you anything different. Just because he's listed as father doesn't make true. I think you'll agree that Jessie was definitely on the old side to be having a child in 1880.

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Is it possible that I can pay to see the 1881/91 census for Scotland and would it tell me if George was the dad or granddad ..thanks for all your help

I'm with Greyghost- 62!!!! Someone's telling porkies me thinks

Portobello Advertiser - Saturday 28 June 1884

PAINFUL CHARGE OF THEFT.

At Dalkeith Police Court on Monday, a young woman, named Agnes Mitchell, daughter of George Mitchell, hatter, Gordon’s Close, was charged with the theft of a pair of blankets and a boy’s vest and trousers on the 24th and 27th May.

Accused pleaded not guilty, but admitted having pledged the articles in order to provide food for the family daring her father’s absence business she didn't get enough of money to keep them. Accused’s father deponed that he gave his daughter no permission to pledge the articles, and alleged that she had no occasion to do so, he left her power to procure what necessaries she required, and during his absence regularly sent her money, which he alleged had all been spent on drink and dissipation.
Vincent Mitchell, ten years of age. stated that he had been sent by his sister to pledge the articles, and that she had spent the money in drink. This was stoutly denied by the accused. Sergeant Barclay said that making enquiiy into the charge he found the articles were pledged in the father’s name, and the accused said she was obliged to pledge them in order to keep the family. Bailie Gray said it was a very painful case to find daughter charged with the theft of articles from her father’s house during his absence, and although he had notion that her father had not sufficiently arranged for the maintenance of his family, could not do otherwise than find that she was not warranted in pawning these articles, but he was exceedingly unwilling to send her to prison under the circumstances, and would dismiss her with admonition, trusting that this would be a warning to her to be honest in future.

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Higher Hillgate, Stockport, Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Haywood Head Married Male 28 1823 Lodging Housekeeper Manchester, Lancashire, England
Catharine Haywood Wife Married Female 38 1813 - Ireland
Susana Haywood Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Stockport, Cheshire, England
John Haywood Son - Male 0 1851 - Stockport, Cheshire, England
Mary Haywood Daughter - Female 16 1835 Servant Stockport, Cheshire, England
George Mitchell Lodger Married Male 28 1823 Factory Hand Scotland
Christina Mitchell Wife Married Female 26 1825 - Scotland
Thomas Mitchell Son - Male 9 1842 - Scotland
Jane Mitchell Daughter - Female 7 1844 - Scotland
Mary Anne Mitchell Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Scotland
George Mitchell - - Male 3 1848 - Scotland
Mary Ann Mitchell - - Female 0 1851 - Scotland - READS MARGARET ON ORIGINAL
David McInlosh Lodger - Male 14 1837 Mechanic Carlisle, Cumberland, England
Mary Anne - Daughter - Female 15 1836 Factory Hand Carlisle, Cumberland, England

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(a possible 7 children born on above, Mother Maiden Name Sherman)


Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1943

MITCHELL Florence 62 Stockport Second Stockport ST2/9/8

(if Florence)

Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1969

MITCHELL Aloysius 27/Nov/1880 Stockport Stockport ST/9A/145

Chris :)

George Mitchell
mentioned in the record of George Mitchell and Christina Mc Luskie
Name George Mitchell
Spouse's Name Christina Mc Luskie
Event Date 26 Dec 1840
Event Place Old Kilpatrick,Dunbarton,Scotland

MITCHELL, JOHN JOSEPH MCCLUSKEY Order
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in GATESHEAD Volume 10A Page 556

MITCHELL, GEORGE MCKLESKY Order
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 22 Page 655

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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Oakwellgate Lane, Gateshead, Durham, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Mitchell Head Married Male 36 1825 Hatter Scotland
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Christiana Mitchell Wife Married Female 34 1827 - Scotland
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Mary Ann Mitchell Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1846 - Scotland
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George Mitchell Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 Scholar Yorkshire, England
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John Mitchell - - Male 1 1860 - Gateshead, Durham, England

On the birth cert it reads........

Liddles Land
Back Street
Dalkeith

Am I missing something here ?

Aloysius married a Florence - nee Sherman - with their children born in Stockport RD from 1912

It's his Father George who was ?married to Jessie. But were they really his parents at her age. Perhaps they registered the birth of an unmarried daughter's child??

The death certificate for Jessie Mitchell/Boyd
Parish of Dalkeith in the County of Edinburgh
Jessie Mitchell married to George Mitchell Master Hatter died January 14th 1881 at 3pm at Liddles Land, Back Street, Dalkeith aged 62 years.
Cause of death Chronic Brights disease of the kidney of unknown duration.
Informant was George who was present at the death.
Her Father is listed as William Boyd an Ensign with the 49th Regiment of foot, deceased.

Thank you greyghost that explains why he older having a family with Jessie

Under the parents names what I can make out is 186? March 3rd Parish of Edinburgh

can also make out Kiddles Lane or Land Back Street

Aloysius married a lady with maiden surname of Sherman, looking at the birth registrations of Walter and Janet from the 1939 register. If it was a second marriage for her that's not necessarily her name on a marriage record.

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
Mitchell Albert C Sherman Stockport 8a 122
Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
MITCHELL Prudence E Sherman Stockport 8a 164 99%)
Mitchell Ivy Sherman Stockport 8a 81
Births Dec 1918
Mitchell Agnes M Sherman Stockport 8a 52
Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Mitchell Janet Sherman Stockport 8a 57
Births Sep 1924 (>99%)
Mitchell Walter J Sherman Stockport 8a 79 <<<<<<<<<<

Mitchell Household (7 People)
131 Chapel Street , Stockport C.B., Cheshire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Florence Mitchell 18 May 1882 Female Unpaid Domestic Dutie Married 369 2
Aloj?ius Mitchell 29 Nov 1880 Male Railway Goods Guard Heavy Work Married 369 1 <<<<<<<<<
Janet Lavery (Mitchell) 29 Sep 1920 Female Shop Assistant (Woolwor? Single 369 3
Walter J Mitchell 26 Aug 1924 Male Van Boy Wholesale Milk Hea Work Single 369 4
Prudence H MacMilian (Walker) 04 Apr 1914 Female Croguer Felt Hat Work Heavy Worker Married 369 5
Herbert V (Henry) Walker 09 Nov 1931 Male At School Single 369 6
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