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Can anyone assist me to find more information about my paternal grandmother's Aunt who I can find no trace of after her marriage in 1904,

Louisa Jane Matilda COX was born at 9 Lennox Road in Islington on 12 May 1879. Her father was William COX and her mother was Mary Ann COX nee SANGSTER.

In the 1881 census for Islington she was aged 1 living with her parents and siblings at 9 Lennox Road.

In the 1891 census for Biggleswade she 12 years old and living in Asylum Road with her brother Arthur, his wife Clarissa and their daughter Lily A (my paternal Grandmother). In the Census record Louisa's place of birth is given as London - Finsbury Park.

On 12 October 1904 she married John Thomas JOHNSON in Farcet (Hunts). At the time of marriage Louisa was living in Yaxley (Hunts). The marriage certficate shows my paternal Grandmother as being one of the witnesses so I know I have the correct marriage.

In the 1911 census I found John Thomas JOHNSON (aged 33) born in Farcet (Hunts) and living in Farcet with his sister, her husband (Russell CROFT) and various children. John Thomas JOHNSON is shown as having been married for 5 years (which does not tie in with the date of his marriage) although his age correspondsto that given at the time of his marriage. On the census he is shown as having no children but there is no entry for his wife. According to the GRO index there were no other marriages for a John Thomas JOHNSON in Huntingdonshire between 1904 and 1911 so I assume that this is the right person and that the number of years married is a possible error.

I have searched the 1911 census for a Louisa JOHNSON and can find no record which could possibly be the person I seek. When searching the 1911 index I found over 1500 references to a Louisa Johnson of which only 4 were born in 1879, It is of course possible her age or place of birth could have been incorrectly recorded so without looking at each census record I could not be certain I have found the right person.

I have looked at the GRO index for a possible death of Louisa after the 1911 census with only 1 possibility being found and having purchased the death certificate this proved to not be the correct person.

Any helping in researching this further would be most appreciated.

John

JOHNSON, JOHN THOMAS (NIGHTINGALE)
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in PETERBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 235


County Huntingdonshire
Place Farcet
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 118
Marriage date 27 Dec 1858
Groom forename John
Groom surname JOHNSON
Groom age 27
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom abode Farcet
Groom occupation Huckster
Bride forename Hannah
Bride surname NIGHTINGALE
Bride age 21
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode Farcet
Groom father forename Samuel
Groom father surname JOHNSON
Groom father occupation Laborer
Bride father forename Joseph
Bride father surname NIGHTINGALE
Bride father occupation Laborer
Witness John BANNISTER
Witness Mary JOHNSON
Register note Mark of Bride and Groom


Baptism
County Huntingdonshire
Place Farcet
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 11 Sep 1859
Person forename Clarissa
Person abode Farcet
Father forename John
Father surname JOHNSON
Father occupation Laborer
Mother forename Hannah


https://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1288519

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1356646


Edits

Marriages Dec 1886
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COX Arthur William F Peterbro' 3b 490 inett

Postems for this entry:

05/03/2015 Married Clarissa Johnson on Nov 7 1886 at St Mark's, Peterborough


Births Dec 1866 (>99%)
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Cox Arthur W F Ely 3b 541

(Baptism, London Ancestry, Arthur William Franklin Cox, born Sept 29 1866, same time, below pair. Parents, William John Franklin.Mary Ann Cox)


Births Mar 1870 (>99%)
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Cox George Theodrick W St. Saviour 1d 61


Births Jun 1873 (>99%)
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Cox Ernest Thomas St. Saviour 1d 63 (Born 11 May 1873)


Deaths Jun 1888 (>99%)
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COX George Theodrick W 18 St. Saviour 1d 11


Marriages Sep 1866
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SANGSTER Mary A. Ely 3b 878 JWhitmore

Postems for this entry:

15/01/2012 Mary Anne SANGSTER married William John Franklin COX


https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#calendar

(Probate Arthur 1938, to Clarissa)

?????

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
JOHNSON, ELSIE LOUISA COX Order
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in EASTHAMPSTEAD Volume 02C Page 431



JOHNSON, THOMAS ARTHUR COX Order
GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in EASTHAMPSTEAD Volume 02C Page 441

is this Louisa's death

Deaths Dec 1947   (>99%)

Johnson
 Louisa J
 68
 Wandsworth
 5d
617

The 1911 Census would not show him as having any children UNLESS his wife had died and he had the children ....................

............... number of years married and number of children born/died/living were supposed to be shown for the wife.


It is a possible that there were 2 children born to the marriage as posted by rootgatherer, unless you can find another Johnson/Cox marriage.

Perhaps, try to trace those children???



Don't forget ............... marriages broke up just as often in those days as they do today

(saw below)

Chris :)

National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s)
Thos Arthur
Last name Johnson
Birth year 1908
Birth date 18 Apr 1908
Event year 1913
School name Braywood Church of England First School
Town Braywood
County Berkshire
Parent name(s) Jas Johnson
Book type Admissions


First name(s) Elsie Louisa
Last name Johnson
Birth year 1906
Birth date 13 Mar 1906
Event year 1911
School name Braywood Church of England First School
Town Braywood
County Berkshire
Parent name(s) James Johnson


Deaths Jun 1964 (>99%)
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JOHNSON THOMAS A 56 WINDSOR 6A 196


Berkshire Burial Index Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Thomas Arthur
Last name Johnson
Age 56
Birth year 1908
Marital status married
Occupation Tractor Driver
Burial date 04 Jun 1964
Church Henley Rd Crematorium (Caversham)
Place Reading
Notes died 26 May
County Berkshire

BTW ..............


Easthampstead is in Berkshire

This might fit some of the above posts (Elsie and Thomas births

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%)
Cox Louisa Ann Easthampstead 2c 923
JOHNSON James Easthampstead 2c 923


Name: Elsie Johnson
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Winkfield
Civil Parish: Bray
Search Photos: Search for 'Bray' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address: Folijon Park Cottage, Braywood
Occupation: School
Registration district: Maidenhead
Registration District Number: 123
Sub-registration district: Maidenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 175
Piece: 6642
Household Members:
Name Age
James Johnson 43
Louisa Johnson 38
Fredrick Johnson 14
Emily Johnson 13
Charles Johnson 11
Hilda Johnson 10
Albert Johnson 8
Elizabeth Johnson 6
Elsie Johnson 5
Thomas Johnson 2
William Johnson 1

Andy


EDIT. Thinking along same lines as Sylvia!

Those births are possibly NOT from your marriage .......................


1911 Census

Name: James Johnson
Age in 1911: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Bray
Search Photos: Search for 'Bray' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address: Folijon Park Cottage, Braywood
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 14
Estimated Marriage Year: 1897
Occupation: Farm Waggoner
Registration district: Maidenhead
Registration District Number: 123
Sub-registration district: Maidenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 175
Piece: 6642

James Johnson 43
Louisa Johnson 38
Fredrick Johnson 14
Emily Johnson 13
Charles Johnson 11
Hilda Johnson 10
Albert Johnson 8
Elizabeth Johnson 6
Elsie Johnson 5 99%)
Cox Louisa Ann Easthampstead 2c 923
JOHNSON James Easthampstead 2c 923

Possible for Louisa in 1911?????

Servant, married 7 years (so 1904ish) no children

Name: Louisa Johnson
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, England
Civil Parish: Bournemouth
Search Photos: Search for 'Bournemouth' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: 2 Darracott Road, Pokesdown
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: House Domestic
Registration district: Christchurch
Registration District Number: 95
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 260
Piece: 5824
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Autin Burnett 32
Caroline Burnett 33
Charles Frank Burnett 3
Alfred George Burnett 2
Hilda Bessie Burnett 5/12
Ellen Maria Combleton 45
Emma Samuel 47
Mary Jane Tiller 45
Esther Mathilda Gatland 16
Louisa Johnson 30

Andy

Drat

I did find and post GRO Index registrations for 3 of the children from that marriage between James and Louisa, to show all were born in Easthampstead so definitely NOT children of John Thomas and Louisa

for some reason those records didn't show :-( I've met this particular GR gremlin before, but forgot to check.

This is what shows ........

James Johnson 43
Louisa Johnson 38
Fredrick Johnson 14
Emily Johnson 13
Charles Johnson 11
Hilda Johnson 10
Albert Johnson 8
Elizabeth Johnson 6
Elsie Johnson 5 99%)
Cox Louisa Ann Easthampstead 2c 923
JOHNSON James Easthampstead 2c 923


herewith what I intended to post .......

James Johnson 43
Louisa Johnson 38
Fredrick Johnson 14
Emily Johnson 13
Charles Johnson 11
Hilda Johnson 10
Albert Johnson 8
Elizabeth Johnson 6
Elsie Johnson 5


JOHNSON, EMILY mmn COX
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in EASTHAMPSTEAD Volume 02C Page 416

JOHNSON, REGINALD CHARLES mmn COX
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in EASTHAMPSTEAD Volume 02C Page 396

JOHNSON, HILDA VICTORIA MAY mmn COX
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in EASTHAMPSTEAD Volume 02C Page 413

JOHNSON, ALBERT EDWARD mmn COX
GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in EASTHAMPSTEAD Volume 02C Page 423


Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%)

Cox Louisa Ann Easthampstead 2c 923
JOHNSON James Easthampstead 2c 923

Having now returned back home from holiday I've had time to consider the many replies for which I thank the respondents. The following are my observations:

Chris Ho in your first post most of the names are familiar to me and have no bearing of what happened to Louisa Jane Matilda JOHNSON nee COX. The John Thomas JOHNSON (marriage to Hannah Nightingale) is not the person of the same name who.married Louisa Jane Matilda COX in 1904. He is in fact the father of Clarissa JOHNSON (my Gt Grandmother). The references to various members of the COX family are already known to me and your reference to Genesreunited are threads that were both originated by myself. The 2 postems in FREEBMD are also of my making.

Rootgatherer, Andrew and Chris Ho (in your second post) you refer to Thos Arthur
JOHNSON and Elsie Louisa JOHNSON who are children of James JOHNSON and Louisa Ann JOHNSON nee COX and have no relevance to Louisa Jane Matilda JOHNSON nee COX.

Malyon - unfortunately the death of Louisa JOHNSON in 1947 is not
related to Louisa Jane Matilda JOHNSON nee COX. When I found this death in the GRO index I thought it might be a match given the age at death was appropriate, but having obtained a copy of the death certificate this Louisa Jane JOHNSON was the wife of a Frederick Henry James JOHNSON and was Louisa Jane STAPLETON before their marriage in 1899.

Sylvia you are perfectly correct in stating that the 1911 census the number of years married and number of children born/died/living were supposed to be shown for the wife. However in the 1911 census entry for John Thomas JOHNSON this information had been entered but then crossed out in red.

Andrew your reference to a Louisa JOHNSON in the 1911 census for Bournemouth might be a possible match. Certainly the number of years of marriage and her age seem to tie in. It's a pity she was not born outside of London as this would give a better chance of matching as indeed would be the case if her forename had been given in full. I'm not sure if I can use this information to and answer my original question as to what happened to Louisa Jane Matilda JOHNSON nee COX.

Again thanks for all your input. I guess trying to research JOHNSON and COX is not going to be an easy given that they both fairly common family names.

Regards

John