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Thank you all again.
There was another son born in 1912 died in 1950. Raymond de vere Baker,
I know there was an older daughter too Irena Sylvia Turner (known as Sylvie) born 1898 with Roeloff Kotzee as her father but maybe Charles did stay and when he died the opportunity arose for Marie to marry again.
As there are so many Bakers perhaps this Charles who died in Bournemouth is the one I'm looking for. will send for the death certificate I think and see who registered the death.

my elder brother died in spain in 2001 where he had settled with his wife

his death wasnt reg at the British Consulate and he was cremated and his ashes buried there

His wife eventually sold the house and came back to the UK where she had adult sons from her first marriage. She hasnt stayed in touch with our family so no one has any further info on him other than the date he passed

His record will stay closed .

I do know where he was in 1939 . we were all London evacuees and he lived next door to me and my elder sister in Tunbridge Wells Kent

Our sister passed in 2002 and her record is open along with our foster parents , I am the closed record at that address. thank goodness !!!! lol :-D

Records may remain closed if the person emigrated EVEN IF one would expect them to be dead ...................

The records for my aunt and uncle and all 6 of their children are closed.

5 daughters emigrated to Australia during the late 50s and early 60s, aunt and uncle followed them. 2 daughters are still alive down under, the others have all died. The 6th child remained in England, but no-one has sent in a death certificate (died 2001).

Uncle was born in 1896
Aunt born 1897
Children born between 1923 and 1931.

I suppose someone from FMP will finally realise that Aunt and Uncle would be medical miracles if they were still alive :-D


Of course it will also be difficult to open closed records for women who may have married more than once since the NHS stopped updating the Register in 1991.

Lymington is in Hampshire so could she have ,married soon after Charles died

Name: Charles Baker
Birth Date: abt 1877
Date of Registration: Mar 1929
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Bournemouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 1480

Oh, got it now, thanks

From FMP:

Why are some records in the 1939 Register officially closed?
Answer:

Individuals’ records remain closed for 100 years from their date of birth (100 year rule). Records remain closed for people born less than 100 years ago until proof of death is verified. As more records become open as a result of the 100 year rule, more records will become available to search and view online at Findmypast. Of the 41 million records, approximately 13 million (around 32%) will be closed at publication. The 1939 Register will be updated regularly.

Thank you again.
On the 1939 Register where it states : Sorry, record officially closed - does that mean the other folk may still be living or just that they may have been out of the country when they died and therefore not registered here?

think you need the marriage cert for her marital status at the time

the informant had her birth year one year out

First name(s) MARIE
Last name WICKS
Gender Female
Birth day 20
Birth month 11
Birth year 1874
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1973
District Exmoor
County Devon
Volume 7C
Page 1068
Country England

Marie Wicks on the 1939 Register

Wicks Household (4 People) Niton Milford Road , Lymington M.B., Hampshire, England

Marie Wicks 20 Nov 1875 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Percy Wicks 28 Nov 1877 Service Royal Navy & Retired Coastguard
Sorry, this record is officially closed.
Sorry, this record is officially closed.


Marie Wicks in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Marie Wicks
Birth Date: 20 Nov 1874
Date of Registration: Dec 1973
Age at Death: 99
Registration district: Exmoor
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 7c
Page: 1068

it was 1929

Marriages Dec 1929
BAKER Marie Wicks Lymington 2b 1695
Wicks Percy Baker Lymington 2b 1695


1939 register
Wicks Household (4 People) Niton Milford Road , Lymington M.B., Hampshire, England

Marie Wicks 20 Nov 1875 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Percy Wicks 28 Nov 1877 Service Royal Navy & Retired Coastguard

The marriage was in 1929.......

Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
BAKER Marie Wicks Lymington 2b 1695
Wicks Percy Baker Lymington 2b 1695

she married Percy Wicks in Lymington not sure if she referred to herself as marie or mary

so the 1928 marriage cert should say if she widow of or previously married to

who did she marry as not seeing a 1928 one on freebmd

This is the probate of the Charles who died in 1949


Charles Edwin Baker in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Charles Edwin Baker
Death Date: 11 Jul 1949
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 19 Sep 1949
Registry: Wakefield

Of 38 Tudor Way, Hillingdon, Middlesex.........at Hillingdon Hospital Uxbridge.

To Violet Laurie Baker.....Spinster

Thanks to both of you - sorry delay in replying. The one piece of information I have is that marie re-married and didn't actually die until she was at the end of her 90's - in fact I think she nearly made it to 100.
So not sure about the Uxbrige information.
I have found out that marie remarried in 1928
Thanks for the look-ups.

Another daughter but doesn't seem to have married

Edna Ada Baker
Birth Date: 6 Oct 1903
Date of Registration: Mar 1994
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Register Number: D17C
District and Subdistrict: 3011D
Entry Number: 125

Maybe not as the birth year is wrong


Name: Edna Adah Baker
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Lambeth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 493

1939 reg
Household (4 People)
45 Burmester Road , Wandsworth, London, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Daphne B F Scandling (Pocock,Baker) 03 Sep 1911 Book Keeper Typist
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Florence H Armitage 08 Jun 1907 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Thomas R Armitage 09 Aug 1905 Electrician Small Motor
Ref: RG101/0603J/009/22 Letter Code: AXTU
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Daphne B F Scandling
Birth Date: abt 1912
Date of Registration: Mar 1967
Age at Death: 55
Registration district: Bath
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 7c
Page: 90

Not seeing the marriage though

First marriage
Marriages Dec 1939
Baker Daphne B F Pocock Wandsworth 1d 1651
Pocock Albert E Baker Wandsworth 1d 1651

Still Charles E though

First name(s) CHARLES E
Last name BAKER
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1878
Age 71
Death quarter 3
Death year 1949
District Uxbridge
County Middlesex
Volume 5F
Page 80
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
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Maybe the marriage of one of the children will indicate if he was still alive then

Wonder on this one. Maybe the enumerator misheard P for E
1939 register


Baker Household (2 People)
38 Tudor Way , Uxbridge U.D., Middlesex, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Marie Baker 22 Oct 1875 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Charles E Baker 20 Oct 1877 Clerk-Civil With Raf
Ref: RG101/0940E/015/29 Letter Code: BVAO
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MARIE
Last name BAKER
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1876
Age 67
Death quarter 2
Death year 1943
District Uxbridge
County Middlesex
Volume 3A
Page 62
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007


Age all ties up with 1911 census