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Frank Reginald Wilson

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PatW

PatW Report 27 Jul 2017 23:15

Frank was born in 1924 and married Lucie Rose Vanderbosch in 1947 in Lancaster Lancashire. They had 2 daughters Elizabeth Anne born 1949 in Lancaster and another daughter Diane but that may have been her second name as
Elizabeth was always called Anne. Where and when Lucie was born I have no idea as I can't find a birth. Also can't find a birth for Diane but the family seemed to move about a bit. Preston and Liverpool spring to mind.
Wondering if anyone out there can help
Many thanks

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Jul 2017 23:28

Dianne A. Wilson's birth was in 1954 in Amounderness, Lancashire. The mother's maiden name is VandeNbosch on the children's birth and the marriage.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Jul 2017 23:36

Could this be a possibility for Lucie:-

New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals Transcription
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First name(s) Lucie
Last name Van Den Bos
Sex Female
Age 10
Birth year 1930
Birth place Holland
Arrival year 1940
Arrival city New York
Arrival state New York
Arrival country United States
Ship name Roma
Country United States
Film number 1758205
NARA roll number 6467
NARA publication number T715
Record set New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals

Kath. x

PatW

PatW Report 27 Jul 2017 23:42

Thank you Kathleen.
It could well be her. Certainly Dianne is right.
Makes you wonder why Lucie would come from American to England especially when she originated from Holland. If she is the right one she must have only been about 17 when she married Reg. as he was known. She must have come with her parents.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Jul 2017 07:05

Reference...

Chris :)

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1947

WILSON Frank Reginald VANDERBOSCH Lucie Rose Vanden Lancaster, Skerton, St Luke

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php


Edits (also same (Surname) Van Den Bos Family on that Passenger Record)

Nicolass Gisjbertus Van den (43 Male) Commerce

Leuntje Meuldyk Van den (43 Female)

Carle Van den (6 Female)

Hetty Van den (14 Female)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jul 2017 07:07

Well the marriage cert will give her age and fathers name which may help

Apart from the daughters birth ,now found, what other info are you looking for ?

:-)

PatW

PatW Report 28 Jul 2017 08:43

Frank Reginald Wilson was born in Lancaster. Lancashire in 1924. His father was Francis Samuel Wilson and his mother nee Carter but can't find a marriage.

Reg as he was know had 2 sisters. Norah 1914 and Eileen 1919, both born in Lancaster. Eileen died aged 15 in 1934 after being involved in a motor accident.

Maybe someone would be kind enough to look for the marriage.
Thank you.


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Jul 2017 09:37

???


Francis S Wilson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Francis S Wilson
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 1243
Records on Page:
Name
Annie E Carter <<<<<<<<<<<<< ???
Florence Hellyer
Harry Leng
Francis S Wilson

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Jul 2017 09:40

EDIT:

This may be wrong, given DOB in 1939, posted later.



??? (But would have been 16 at marriage.)

Births Jun 1895 (>99%)
Carter Annie Elizabeth Middlesbro' 9d 562


~Wild guess - not an unusual name:

Annie Elizabeth Wilson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Annie Elizabeth Wilson
Birth Date: 15 Jun 1895
Date of Registration: Dec 1977
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Nuneaton
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 31
Page: 0105

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jul 2017 09:50

Births Dec 1914
Wilson Nora Carter Lancaster 8e 1186

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 28 Jul 2017 10:06

1939 register (sorry I don't have access):

Wilson Household Lancaster M.B., Lancashire, England
Frances S Wilson 1887
Annie E Wilson 1889
1 more person who is officially closed

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jul 2017 11:40

Wilson Household (3 People) 6 Lymm Avenue , Lancaster M.B., Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Frances S Wilson 23 Sep 1887 Cabinet Maker (Asst Manager)
Annie E Wilson 17 Mar 1889 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

possibly Nora as cant find her on the 1839 reg or a marriage

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 28 Jul 2017 11:45

Lancaster Guardian - Friday 29 November 1946

LANCASTER EXPERTS TO THE FORE
In Birmingham, work on the Royal train nearing completion. In about three weeks time it is expected that the job will be complete and the specialists who have been working on it can return to their homes. Returning home to Lancaster will be a contingent of employees from Waring and Gillows who have been responsible for all the woodwork in the principal rooms of seven coaches. At the Lancaster factory the planning and general designing has been in the hands of Mr. Frank Wilson, of 6, Lymm Avenue Scale Hail Lancaster, who for the past three months has been paying regular visits to Birmingham to supervise the work....

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 28 Jul 2017 11:48

Lucie from Ostend according to engagement annoucement:

Lancaster Guardian - Friday 07 March 1947

WILSON- VANDENBOSCH. The engagement is announced between S/Sgt. Reg. Wilson. 6 Lymm Avenue, Lancaster, and Lucie Vandenbosch of Ostend.
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Lancaster Guardian - Friday 19 September 1947

WILSON—VANDENBOSCH: St. Luke's Skerton. by Rev. Moss, September 13th, Frank R. Wilson. Avenue, to Lucie Vandenbosch, of Ostend.

Flip

Flip Report 28 Jul 2017 12:17

I don't know the date of the arrival into US, but as Belgium was invaded 10 May 1940, it could be they were escaping but I don't think there would be a direct route to England?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Jul 2017 12:18

If the DOB given in 1939 is correct, Annie can't be the 1895 Annie whose birth I posted earlier.

Francis died in Lancaster:

Francis S Wilson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Francis S Wilson
Birth Date: abt 1887
Date of Registration: Dec 1967
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Lancaster
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10c
Page: 668

I wonder if this is Annie's death, with the month wrong? (Or maybe the month's wrong in 1939):

Annie Elizabeth Wilson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Annie Elizabeth Wilson
Birth Date: 17 Nov 1889
Date of Registration: Mar 1979
Age at Death: 89
Registration district: Lancaster
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 40
Page: 1999

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Jul 2017 12:23

So - options for her birth - none in Middlesbrough in 1889:

Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Carter Annie Elizabeth Ecclesall B. 9c 375

Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
Carter Annie Eliza Helmsley 9d 434
Carter Annie Elizabeth Dartford 2a 450
Carter Annie Ellen Epping 4a 298

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 28 Jul 2017 12:29

AG- That's her death in 1979:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar

WILSON, Annie Eliza of 6 Lymm Avenue Lancaster died 15 February 1979 Probate Liverpool 11 April ÂŁ13746

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 28 Jul 2017 12:33

Another possible:

Name: Annie Elizabeth Carter
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1890
Registration district: Mullingar
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 3
Page: 240
FHL Film Number: 101063

EDIT: Not this one- she was born in March

PatW

PatW Report 28 Jul 2017 15:02

I knew Francis was a master carpenter and had worked for Waring And Gillow at Lancaster but didn't know about the Royal Train. All very interesting.

Still sorting the dates out but thank you all for your input.