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Apologies to Argyll Gran for duplication
I skim- read as usual and missed your post re all 5 Loughlin children.

1912 death does indeed relate to Muriel Mary Loughlin
She died at Ballinrobe on 20 Nov 1912
Cause of death: Scarlet Fever

Oops! For some reason I thought it was going to Canada!

AG - that 1946 passenger list for Miss LE Loughlin you suggest is travelling to the Middle Eastern area of Canada is probably Middle East as in Middle East - the ship is listed as travelling to Bombay !!

Muriel M. Loughlin
in the UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name: Muriel M. Loughlin
Birth Date: 1904
Death Date: Nov 1912
Cemetery: Ballinrobe Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Ballinrobe, County Mayo, Ireland
Has Bio?: N

You mentioned Donal's sister Mary Muriel 1905, GG.

Was she actually Muriel Mary ??


Muriel Mary Loughlin
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: Muriel Mary Loughlin
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1905
Registration district: Castlebar
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 4
Page: 91
FHL Film Number: 101070


If so - - - -

Muriel Mary Loughlin
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
Name: Muriel Mary Loughlin
Estimated birth year: abt 1906
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1913
Death Age: 7
Registration district: Ballinrobe
Volume: 4
Page: 30
FHL Film Number: 0101605

Alice may be nothing to do with Donal - she may just happen to have the same surname, and to be on the same list.


Long shot for Agnes Maud:

Agnes Maud Jordan
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Agnes Maud Jordan
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 29
Registration district: Newport Pagnell
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 426

Hi GL - yes, following AG's post re a passenger list entry, I found a birth in May 1911 for a Mary Louise Jordan - posted @1738

AG's post @ 1714 also mentions an Alice O'Loughlin aged 15 on the same list in 1928 when Donal arrives in USA/Canada

In OP you state you found 4 births for Louisa Kate and James Loughlin.

I found 5
Muriel Mary: 24 March 1905. Born at Ellison Street, Castlebar
Lilian Elizabeth 25 Dec 1906 Ditto
Donal Graham 24 Jan 1908 Ditto
Dermott Valentine 14 Feb 1909 Ballinrobe ( dob plus middle name... LOL)
Mary Louise 2 May 1911 Ballinrobe ( born after 1911 census date)

Thanks for joining in Glasgow Lass. I'm pretty sure Margaret Basilia has to be Margaret Anne. If that is the right marriage on Ancestry then she would have been just 37, so a chance of child/ren I suppose.
EDIT - found by AG - thanks.

I do have the birth reg's, all apart from William as before Registration - sorry didn't say, thought the baptisms would be enough. Having said that, Florence 1882 and Mary 1884, haven't found baptisms.

Thanks for the help so far.

If Henry has been found 1901, then time I look for him in 1911

Irene Hogan
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Irene Hogan
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 10 North Villas, St Pancras, London N W
Registration district: St Pancras
Registration District Number: 9
Sub-registration district: East St Pancras
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 716
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Aloysims Hogan 48 - insurance clerk, born Kilkenny
Margaret Hogan 45 - born Castlebar
Irene Hogan 9
Marie Josephine Hogan 7
John William Hogan 6


Married 10 years (Margaret, that is). Three children, all living.
All the children born Dublin.

No Image available on irishgenealogy.ie

Party 1 Name Michael Hogan
Party 2 Name Margaret Jordan

Date of Event 15 January 1902
Group Registration ID 1633171
SR District/Reg Area Dublin North

A tree on Ancestry gives her name as Margaret Ann Basilia.(No proof offered)

It says she married Michael Hogan, and died 19/05/1947 at 11 North Villas, St Pancras, London.

Presumably this death:

Deaths Jun 1947 (>99%)
Hogan Margaret 82 Pancras 5d 355

No sign of the marriage on FreeBMD - I expect it was in Ireland, though I don't see it there either.

The tree says they had 3 children:
Irene (1901 - 68); Marie Josephine A (1902 - 1983) - both girls born Dublin.
Jack (1903 - ).

Copied and Pasted...
"Margaret Basilia 1864 - have found nothing more on her BUT a Margaret Anne is baptised 1864 Castlebar and I wonder if this is her. There is nothing more on her either that I've found.
Can you find anything else?"

This is the Civil Birth Registration:
Margaret Ann Jordan born 1 Dec 1864 at Castlebar, Co Mayo
Parents: Myles Jordan s and Mary Jordan, Formerly Graham
Registered by father, Myles Jordan, Surgeon

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03580/2319539.pdf

Going back to the Jordans:

Myles Constantine Dlyster Jondan
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
Name: Myles Constantine Dlyster Jondan
Gender: Male
Age: 33
Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street: Meddlicot Street
District: Derryloughan
County: Mayo
Household Members:
Name Age
Myles Constantine Dlyster Jondan 33 - "Phys & Surg, JP"
Henry Jondan 20 - visitor - no employment - that'll be Henry James 1880 ?
Annie Philips 18 - servant

Mary Louise Loughlin
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: Mary Louise Loughlin
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911
Registration district: Ballinrobe
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 4
Page: 31
FHL Film Number: 101074

Lilian a Hairdresser arrived in 1935 with Louie Kathleen aged 64 a Housekeeper, and Mary Louise aged 24 a Clerk, address c/o Post Office, Brighton so perhaps there was another child c1911

EDIT - a Mary Loughlin birth reg 2.5.1911 Ballinasloe RD mmn Jordan. Original has Ballinrobe RD and correct parents i.e. Louie nee Jordan and James Loughlin Bank Manager

Lilian was also baptised as O'Loughlin:

Ireland, Select Catholic Birth and Baptism Registers, 1763-1912
Name: Lilian Elizabeth O'Loughlin
Father: James J O'Loughlin
Birth: 12 Dec 1906
Baptism: 20 Dec 1906 - Castlebar, Mayo

Looks like Donals sister Lilian went to Canada too, at some time:

Lillian Elizabeth Loughlin
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Lillian Elizabeth Loughlin
Birth Date: abt 1907
Age: 28
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 23 May 1935
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
Ship Name: Montrose
Shipping line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 145919


Maybe her going back again to Canada after the war? No age given.

Miss L E Loughlin
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Miss L E Loughlin
Gender: Female
Departure Date: 26 Jun 1946
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Britannic
Shipping line: Cunard White Star Limited
Official Number: 162316
Master: R B

Travelling on Troop Transport. Welfare worker; last UK address CWL Canteen, Bicester.
Intended country of future permanent residence: Middle East. {Middle East of Canada, presumably?}

Dermot V . Loughlin
in the UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name: Dermot V . Loughlin
Birth Date: 1909
Death Date: Oct 1912
Cemetery: Ballinrobe Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Ballinrobe, County Mayo, Ireland
Has Bio?: N

siblings that I found up to 1911 were Mary Muriel 1905, Lilian Elizabeth 1906, Dermott Valentine 1909 (he was the Ballinrobe registration). There could have been more but ? unlikely as Louisa would have been 41 in 1911