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Mary Elizabeth Dudley born 1871 was married to John Frederick Clayton in 1895 Wolverhampton but I am told she had a family in Liverpool has well Can anyone find a marriage for her ..its a long shot has its only family gossip
Thank you

Her probate?

CLAYTON Mary Elizabeth of Dudley Dene Sharoe Green Lane Broughton near Preston Lancashire died 30 April 1945. Probate Llandudno 30 August to Gertrude Dudley Parker ( wife of Robert Henry Parker) and Winifred Carter (wife of Edward Carter). Effects £17089 0s 11d.

Mary Elizth Clayton
in the 1911 England Census
Age in 1911:
40
Estimated birth year:
abt 1871
Relation to Head:
Wife
Gender:
Female
Birth Place:
Wolvork Ampton
Civil Parish:
Preston
County/Island:
Lancashire
Country:
England
Street address:
Balmoral Hotel Preston Lancs
Marital Status:
Married
Occupation:
Licensed Victualler
Household Members:

John Frederick Clayton 42 , barman & lodging house keeper
Mary Elizth Clayton 40 , married 15 years, 2 children, both living.
Gertrude Dudley Clayton 10
Winifred Clayton 3
William Henry Clayton 78 , father-in-law , (ORIGINAL SAYS WILLIAM HENRY DUDLEY)

Marriages Dec 1895   (>99%)

Clayton
 John Frederick
 
 Wolverhampton
 6b
1035
  
Dudley
 Mary Elizabeth
 
 Wolverhampton
 6b
1035

He was a police inspector in 1901:


Mary E Clayton
in the 1901 England Census
Age:
30
Estimated birth year:
abt 1871
Relation to Head:
Wife
Gender:
Female
Spouse:
John Clayton
Birth Place:
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish:
Preston
Ecclesiastical parish:
Holy Trinity
Town:
Preston
County/Island:
Lancashire
Country:
England
Household Members:


John Clayton 32
Mary E Clayton 30
Gertrude Clayton 3/12

Have you looked for her in 1939, to see who she is living with?

Have you identified her birth record?

Added:
Born 1869 Wolverhampton?

Were her father and mother William and Harriett? If so then she was born 1869. This is her baptism:-

First name(s) Mary Elizabeth
Last name Dudley
Baptism year 1869
Baptism date 24 Oct 1869
Baptism place Wolverhampton, St Paul
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Harriett
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D4374/1/3
Page 224
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms

and the GRO reference for the birth:-

First name(s) MARY ELIZABETH
Last name DUDLEY
Birth year 1869
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District Wolverhampton
County Staffordshire
Country England
Volume 6B
Page 445
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

Kath. x

But that certainly looks like her on the 1901 & 1911 censuses, Kath, where she gives birth year of 1871, particularly since she gives daughter Gertrude the middle name Dudley.

England and Wales Census, 1871
Name
Mary E Dudley
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1871
Event Place
Wolverhampton, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Enumeration District
21
Gender
Female
Age
1
Relationship to Head of Household
Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated)
1870
Birthplace
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Entry Number
15
Affiliate Image Identifier
GBC/1871/2933/0143
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
William Dudley
Head
M
38
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Harriet Dudley
Wife
F
38
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Martha Dudley
Daughter
F
16
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Mary E Dudley
Daughter
F
1
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Ann Ford
Servant
F
19
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Alfred Davis Williams
Nephew
M
4
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire

Name
Mary E Dudley
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1881
Event Place
Wolverhampton, StaffordshireEngland
Registration District
Wolverhampton
Residence Note
Worcester St
Gender
Female
Age
11
Marital Status (Original)
Single
Occupation
Scholar
Relationship to Head of Household
Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated)
1870
Birthplace
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Page Number
30
Registration Number
RG11
Piece/Folio
2796/69
Affiliate Record Type
Household
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
William Dudley
Head
M
48
Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Harriet Dudley
Wife
F
48
Shareshill, Staffordshire, England
Mary E Dudley
Daughter
F
11
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Bickley
Servant
F
26
Tettenhall, Staffordshire, England
Joseph Dudley
Grand Son
M
5
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

But she also gives place of birth as Wolverhampton and the 1869 birth is the only Mary E. Dudley in Wolverhampton. Ages on the census are often out by one year depending on whether a person's birthday was before or after the census night, but also because people often didn't know when they were born. My grandmother's age is wrong on nearly every census, it is 5 years out on her marriage certificate and 2 years out on her headstone!!

Kath. x

In the 1871 census (posted above by malyon) she is 1 year old. This means that in April 1871 she was one year old, so she could have had her first birthday anytime between 3rd April 1870 and 2nd April 1871 - which would be consistent with a birth in 1869.

Kath. x

Oh yes, I agree that's her, Kath, but I also think that's her on the 1901 & 1911 census.

I agree Margaret, just birth date out a bit.

I wonder if the family thought she had another family in Liverpool before or after her marriage to John Frederick Clayton? Since she died still using the Clayton surname it is possible that she just lived with someone else but I don't know how it could be proved.

Kath. x

Is this her husband's death (given that Mary's address on probate is near Preston):-

First name(s) JOHN F
Last name CLAYTON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1869
Age 45
Death quarter 2
Death year 1914
District Preston
County Lancashire
Volume 8E
Page 702
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

Kath. x

Thank you ...Her husband John F Clayton died 1914 I see that the will Margaret put on is hers and she was still Clayton so maybe she just lived with this other man I will try the 1939 list ...thank you everyone

But her name is still Clayton when she died.

Kath. x

Relating?...

Chris :)

04 July 1914 - Preston Herald - Preston, Lancashire, England

Death
CLAYTON - June 28th, the Balmoral Hotel. Manchester-road, Preston, John Frederick Clayton, late Chief Inspector of the Preston Police Force, aged 45 years.


28 June 1918 - Lancashire Evening Post - Preston, Lancashire, England

IN MEMORIAM
CLAYTON - In loving memory JOHN FREDERICK CLAYTON, who died June 28th, 1914. From his Wife and Children, Balmoral Hotel, Preston.


29 June 1925 - Lancashire Evening Post - Preston, Lancashire, England

IN MEMORIAM
CLAYTON - In Ioving memory of JOHN CLAYTON, who died June 28tn, 1914. From his Wile and Daughters, Balmoral Hotel, Preston.


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1901

CLAYTON Gertrude Dudley DUDLEY St John Preston ST.J/40/40


Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1914

CLAYTON John Frederick 45 East Preston Preston EP/14/27

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php


Baptism
County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church name St Paul
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 24 Oct 1869
Person forename Mary Elizabeth
Person sex F
Person abode Worcester Street
Father forename William
Father surname DUDLEY
Father occupation Butcher
Mother forename Harriett

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


1871 (Find My Past)
William Dudley Head - Male 38 1833 - Staffordshire, England (Butcher, Master employing 1 man)
Harriet Dudley Wife - Female 38 1833 - Staffordshire, England
Martha Dudley Daughter - Female 16 1855 - Staffordshire, England
Mary E Dudley Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Staffordshire, England
Ann Ford Servant - Female 19 1852 - Staffordshire, England
Alfred Davis Williams Nephew - Male 4 1867 - Staffordshire, England
Street Worcester Street
Parish Wolverhampton
County Staffordshire
Registration district Wolverhampton
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 2933
Folio 71
Page 14


Birth
DUDLEY, MARY ELIZABETH (BIRKIN)
GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 445

Birth
DUDLEY, MARTHA (BIRKIN)
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 335


County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church name St Mark
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 10169
Marriage date 2 Mar 1854
Groom forename William Henry
Groom surname DUDLEY
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom abode Worcester Street
Groom parish
Groom occupation Butcher
Bride forename Harriet
Bride surname BIRKIN
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode Tettenhall
Groom father forename Joseph
Groom father surname DUDLEY
Bride father forename George
Bride father surname BIRKIN
Bride father occupation Gentleman
Witness Esther DUDLEY
Witness Joseph ASTON
Register note Licence; Grooms age is full; Grooms father deceased; Brides age is full; Recorded by Henry Thomas BREAY

So it looks like the death in 1914 that I posted was correct and not 1916.

Kath. x

John Frederick Clayton
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Death Date:
28 Jun 1914
Death Place:
Lancashire, England
Probate Date:
22 Sep 1914
Registry:
London, England

Original says
"Of Balmoral Hotel, 27 Manchester Rd., Preston, Lancashire. Probate to Mary Elizabeth Clayton, widow. Effects £1159 11s 2d.

She certainly made a lot of money after her husband died, didn't she? She left over £17,000.