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1891 census entry

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Andrew

Andrew Report 15 Sep 2017 10:13

I have this entry from 1891

Name: Jane Crews
Gender: Female
Age: 38
Relationship: Cottage Mother
Birth Year: 1853
Birth Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Ewell
Ecclesiastical parish: Banstead
Residence Place: Banstead, Ewell, Surrey, England
Registration district: Epsom
Sub registration district: Epsom
ED, Institution or Vessel: Kensington and Clulsea District School and Cottage homes
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 547
Folio: 133


On the image there is something written in the 'where born' column over Bristol Gloucestershire.

I think it says St James A........ But what?

Anyone able to read it?

Andy

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Sep 2017 10:33

I can't make it out nor can I make it fit - but the St James' that comes up in Bristol if you google is - St James Catholic Priory Church. It's listed Grade 1 and in Horsefair, Whitson Street

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Sep 2017 10:37

It is definately St James Have you got her on any other census?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Sep 2017 10:45

It could start with a B...l..

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Sep 2017 10:52

Its not Ban something?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Sep 2017 11:08

On other census she says she was born Cork Ireland.


1901 England Census

Name: Jane Crews
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: George Crews
Birth Place: Cork, Ireland********************
Civil Parish: Malvern Link
Search Photos: Search for 'Malvern Link' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Malvern Link St Matthias
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: Upton on Severn
Sub-registration district: Malvern
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2785
Folio: 10
Page Number: 11
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members:
Name Age
George Crews 43
Jane Crews 50
George E S Crews 14

malyon

malyon Report 15 Sep 2017 11:47

says jane is married

Jane Crews
England and Wales Census, 1891
Name
Jane Crews
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1891
County
Surrey
Parish
Ewell
Ecclesiastical Parish
BANSTEAD
Registration District
Epsom
Gender
Female
Age
38
Marital Status
Married
Relationship to Head of Household
Cottage Mother
Birth Year (Estimated)
1853
Birthplace
Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Page Number
3
Registration Number
RG12
Piece/Folio
547/ 133

Flip

Flip Report 15 Sep 2017 11:47

You've been at this one a long time Andy!

http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1310510

Sounds like she doesn't know where she was born, maybe father was made up, or if a marriner they may have moved around a lot? Have you found her on 1911?

Flip

Flip Report 15 Sep 2017 11:55

I wonder about this from familysearch - on the image lists family at the top, but on the previous page the bottom entry is for Richard Searle:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5R9M-3C?i=446&cc=1849782

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Sep 2017 12:07

???

Jane and George Crews:

Jane Crews
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Jane Crews
Year: 1921 [ also at same address in 1920]
County or Borough: Richmond upon Thames
Ward or Division/Constituency: Twickenham
Street address: 54 William [actually 52 Heathfield South on image]




??? Maybe:

Jane Crews
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Jane Crews
Death Age: 72
Birth Date: abt 1850
Registration Date: Mar 1922
Registration district: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a




George Crewe
in the 1911 England Census
Name: George Crewe
[George Crews]
Age in 1911: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Leigh, Worcestershire <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Twickenham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 52 Heathfield South, Twickenham <<<<<<<<<<<
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Cordwainer (at Industrial [something] School )
Registration district: Brentford
Registration District Number: 128
Sub-registration district: Twickenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 71
Piece: 6837
Household Members:
Name Age
George Crewe 54



Leigh, Worcestershire is also his POB in 1901.


Marriages Dec 1885
CREWS George King's N 6c 733
KOLTER Jane King's N. 6c 733


Birth of son George:

CREWS, GEORGE EDWIN SEARLE mms SEARLE Order
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 398





ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Sep 2017 12:16

Marriage of son George:

George Edwin S Crews
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: George Edwin S Crews
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Bridgend
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 1498
Records on Page:
Name
George Edwin S Crews
Elvira Jennings


Here are Jane, and George junior, with wife and children, in 1911. Now she's born in Wales!:


Jane Crews
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Jane Crews
Age in 1911: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation to Head: Mother
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Shifnal
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address: Union Workhouse, 34 Park St, Shifnal, Salop
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Shifnal
Registration District Number: 347
Sub-registration district: Shifnal
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 284
Piece: 16013
Household Members:
Name Age
George Crews 30 - Master of Workhouse
Elvira Crews 32 - Matron of Workhouse
Edna Crews 0 - daughter
Jane Crews 58 - mother
Kathleen Crews 5 - neice


(and lots of workhouse inmates)


Baptism of the child listed as Kathleen Crews:


Doris Kathleen Jane Kolter
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Doris Kathleen Jane Kolter
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 27 May 1906
Father's name: Joseph Kolter
Mother's name: Jessie Kolter
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mary the Virgin, Twickenham
Borough: Richmond Upon Thames
Register Type: Parish Registers


EDIT:
Could have saved myself the bother if I'd re-read the other thread properly - I see now you already had found Jane in 1911!

Andrew

Andrew Report 15 Sep 2017 13:00

Thank you to everyone who has replied. Janes birth and family are a complete mystery, she only appears in 1875 to marry in Swansea, as a widow...but no previous marriage. Might have been to cover birth of a child in 1873, can't find a birth record for him either. Her birth from census Cork Swansea Bristol. and yes have been looking for years.


Andy

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Sep 2017 14:55

Andy its not St James & Pauls????????


Place:Bristol St. James and St. Paul Out, Gloucestershire, England

Name Bristol St. James and St. Paul Out
Type Ancient parish, Civil parish
Coordinates 51.4617°N 2.5986°W
Located in Gloucestershire, England
See also Barton Regis Hundred, Gloucestershire, England hundred in which the parish was located
Bristol, Gloucestershire, England city in which the parishes were located

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Sep 2017 13:56

Andy, did you have another earlier thread which you have now deleted?

There's the one posted by Flip above, and also this one:
http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1363450

but I remember contributing to another long thread about Jane, and posting the 1871 census showing Philip Kolter / Katter living in Bristol with the Stinchcomb family.

I can't find that thread now.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Sep 2017 15:33

Have just come across this birth - I wonder if relevant re Jane???
Probably not, but will post it in case:


Sarah Jane Searls
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: Sarah Jane Searls
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1850
Baptism Date: 3 Jan 1850
Baptism Place: St Mary's, Limerick city, Limerick, Ireland
Parish Variants: St. Mary's, Limerick
Diocese: Limerick
Father: Richd Searls <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother: Isabella Robinson <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


???

Richard Searl
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
Name: Richard Searl
Date of Registration: 1847
Registration district: Limerick, Ireland
Volume: 6
Page Number: 575
FHL Film Number: 101241
Records on Page:
Name
Emma Williamson
William Bunn
Thomas Nelson
Thomas Gooding
Richard Searl
Anne Doogan
Isabella Robertson <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Catherine Carmody