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shirley

shirley Report 10 Oct 2017 20:55

Hi . I am having trouble finding my maternal ancestors.Is any one able to help please? This is the info I have already: 3xGt.Grand. James Owen b. c1819 Bradley, Staffs. d. 1877 f.James m. Hannah Hawkins b.c1821 in June 1841. d. 1888.f.Robert.
Father James occupation Labourer. Not sure after that. I have found a James Owen b.c1796 Bradley m. Hannah ? in the 1851/61 census and also a John Owen b.c1772 Bradley m. Frances ? in 1851 Census. Could they be James' parents. Hope someone can help. :-(

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Oct 2017 22:23

For our reference - is this your family?

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Seighford, Stafford, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Owen Head Married Male 32 1819 Agricultural Labourer Bradley, Staffordshire, England
Hannah Owen Wife Married Female 31 1820 - Seighford, Staffordshire, England
Harriet Owen Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Seighford, Staffordshire, England
John Owen Son Unmarried Male 6 1845 - Seighford, Staffordshire, England
Ann Owen Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Seighford, Staffordshire, England
James Owen Son - Male 2 1849 - Seighford, Staffordshire, England
John Hawkins Nephew Unmarried Male 20 1831 Farm Servant Seighford, Staffordshire, England

Your OP not very clear

You're saying James and Hannah married in 1841 -
? also that his Father was James a Labourer and her Father was Robert - is this from the Marriage certificate.

You're then wondering if the Father James was b 1796 and was married to a Hannah

and his Father was possibly John b 1772 and married to Frances?

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Oct 2017 22:34

Staffordshire marriages Transcription

First name(s) James
Last name Owen
Age Of Full Age
Marriage year 1841
Marriage date 23 Jun 1841
Marriage place Seighford, St Chad
Denomination Anglican
Residence Seighford
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Owen
Spouse's first name(s) Hannah
Spouse's last name Hawkins
Spouse's age Of Full Age
Spouse's residence Seighford
Spouse's father's first name(s) Robt
Spouse's father's last name Hawkins
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D3853/1/1
Page 15
Register type Marriage

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Oct 2017 22:37

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Staffordshire baptisms Transcription

First name(s) James
Last name Owen
Baptism year 1819
Baptism date 02 May 1819
Baptism place Bradley, St Mary & All Saints
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) James
Mother's first name(s) Margt
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D3379/6
Page 14
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms

Abode - Billington

safc

safc Report 10 Oct 2017 22:41

Field Value
County Staffordshire
Place (link for place information) Seighford
Church name St Chad
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 29
Marriage date 23 Jun 1841
Groom forename James
Groom surname OWEN
Groom age full age
Groom occupation Labourer
Bride forename Hannah
Bride surname HAWKINS
Bride age full age
Groom father forename James
Groom father surname OWEN
Groom father occupation Labourer
Bride father forename Robert
Bride father surname HAWKINS
Bride father occupation Farmer
Witness Joseph OWEN
Witness Ann TILSLEY
Register note
Transcriber notes

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Oct 2017 22:56

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Staffordshire burials Transcription

First name(s) Margaret
Last name Owen
Age 32
Birth year 1795
Death year 1827
Death date ? ? 1827
Burial year 1827
Burial date 06 Mar 1827
Burial place Bradley, St Mary & All Saints
Denomination Anglican
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D3379/8
Page 18
Register type Burial

Abode - Billington

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Oct 2017 22:58

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Staffordshire burials Transcription

First name(s) James
Last name Owen
Age 74
Birth year 1794
Death year 1868
Death date ? ? 1868
Burial year 1868
Burial date 06 Sep 1868
Burial place Bradley, St Mary & All Saints
Denomination Anglican
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D3379/8
Page 73
Register type Burial

Abode - Bradley

safc

safc Report 10 Oct 2017 23:02


Joseph Owen
England, Staffordshire, Church Records
Name Joseph Owen
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 31 Dec 1820
Event Place Bradley, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Bradley, Staffordshire, England
Parish St Mary & All Saints
Father's Name James Owen
Mother's Name Margaret Owen
Affiliate Image Identifier D3379/6

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Oct 2017 23:13

If this is the James and Hannah family you site in the 1851/61 census, they have a son James born 1831 - so unlikely if there was a James b 1819 (unless a son of Hannah and he is using the Owen surname)

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bradley, Stafford, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
James Owen Male 40 1801 Staffordshire, England
Hannah Owen Female 35 1806 Staffordshire, England
James Owen Male 10 1831 Staffordshire, England
Thomas Owen Male 5 1836 Staffordshire, England
George Owen Male 3 1838 Staffordshire, England
Elizabeth Owen Female 1 1840 Staffordshire, England

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bradley, Stafford, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Owen Head Married Male 55 1796 Agricultural Lab Bradley, Staffordshire, England
Hannah Owen Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Bradley, Staffordshire, England
George Owen Son - Male 14 1837 Scholar Bradley, Staffordshire, England
Elizabeth Owen Daughter - Female 8 1843 Scholar Bradley, Staffordshire, England

shirley

shirley Report 10 Oct 2017 23:18

Yes greyghost the 1851 census is the correct family and the info you give would seem to make sense. thank you.

safc - your info would also seem to be right. thank you.

Would appreciate any help you can find regarding the John Owen b. c1772 he could be my 5 x gt. grandfather. Many thanks

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Oct 2017 23:21

A sister to James and Joseph

Staffordshire baptisms Transcription

First name(s) Jane
Last name Owen
Baptism year 1817
Baptism date 19 Jan 1817
Baptism place Bradley, St Mary & All Saints
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) James
Mother's first name(s) Margt
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D3379/6
Page 8
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms

shirley

shirley Report 10 Oct 2017 23:23

greyghost - will have to double check my info, but I think the first James had a son James and they both married a Hannah. That is what I thought anyway but will need to recheck. Thanks again for your info.

safc

safc Report 10 Oct 2017 23:27


James Owen
England, Staffordshire, Church Records
Name James Owen
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 29 Jun 1815
Event Place Eccleshall, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Eccleshall, Staffordshire, England
Parish Holy Trinity
Residence Place Bradley
Spouse's Name Margaret Williams
Spouse's Residence Place Eccleshall
Affiliate Image Identifier D3767/1/10

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Oct 2017 23:28

There is a marriage in Bradley 1821 of a James Owen and Hannah Lees

With baptisms to James and Hannah from 1821 including Elizabeth (1841 census above) so not your couple

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
OWEN, ELIZABETH LEES Order
GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in STAFFORD UNION Volume 17 Page 123

Stafford RD covers Bradley

(Sorry, bed calls)

shirley

shirley Report 11 Oct 2017 16:06

Thanks again safc and greyghost you have both been really helpful. I shall get to work on the info you have provided. :-)

malyon

malyon Report 11 Oct 2017 18:37

John Owen
England Births and Christenings
Name
John Owen
Residence Place
England
Gender
Male
Christening Date
10 Sep 1772
Christening Date (Original)
10 Sep 1772
Christening Place
Parrish Of St. Helen, Worcester, Stafford, England
Father's Name
David Owen
Mother's Name
Sarah

malyon

malyon Report 11 Oct 2017 18:39

Name
John Owen
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1851
Event Place
Bradley, Staffordshire, England
Registration District
Stafford
Gender
Male
Age
79
Marital Status
Married
Occupation
Ag Lab Now Pauper
Relationship to Head of Household
Head
Birth Year (Estimated)
1772
Birthplace
Bradley, Staffordshire
Page Number
5
Registration Number
HO107
Piece/Folio
1999 / 551
Affiliate Record Type
Household
John Owen
Head
M
79
Bradley, Staffordshire
Frances Owen
Wife
F
64
Gnosall, Staffordshire

malyon

malyon Report 11 Oct 2017 18:40


John Owen
England, Staffordshire, Church Records
Name
John Owen
Event Type
Burial
Event Date
28 Jun 1851
Event Place
Bradley, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original)
Bradley, Staffordshire, England
Parish
St Mary & All Saints
Age
79
Death Date
1851
Affiliate Image Identifier
D3379/8

malyon

malyon Report 11 Oct 2017 18:44

John Owen
mentioned in the record of John Owen and Frances Baker
Name
John Owen
Spouse's Name
Frances Baker
Event Date
1809
Event Place
Gnosall, Stafford, England

malyon

malyon Report 11 Oct 2017 18:49

I can see 5 children born to john and frances