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sorry, Thomas Sanders was named as father on Mary Sanders Baptism october 1774.She would have been 25 when she married Joseph in 1800. Joseph was 61 when he died in 1842 so must have been born around 1780/81 making him around 20 at marriage.Did they round up ages on census..Mary was 60 on 1841 census and 73 on 1851 and the only check on Joseph is the 1841 where he is also 60..presumably they took this for his death in 1842 and said he was 61.
I did find a Joseph Exall b.1743 Oldbury Shropshire his parents Joseph and Mary Exall...perhaps try to find a marriage for the 1743 Joseph and work from there.??
(BMD RG4 2492)if this makes any sense .

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

(some children relating on above, Tenterden, using Soundex option)

Chris :)

(no help on original query though, regarding Father Joseph, one for Surname variants perhaps, Essel etc.)


Exell Joseph — 1782 Hampshire, Portsmouth Marriages Portsea, St Mary, Hampshire, England (Find My Past)

(Mary Underwood)


Edits (her Fathers name on 1800 Marriage?...not seeing, only a Mary Banks, and ? Gleeson? Glesson)

(as AQ noted earlier)


https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/records_office/thread/1188726?page=1

(1782 Marriage suggestion on above also!)

Thanks but that would have made him just 15 when he married in 1800.
I was hoping that Joseph Exall born about 1781 came from around Portsea as did his wife Mary Sanders. Someone found her fathers name on the marriage cert but not his.

trouble is the 1841 census only says he was not born in the county and maariage ref does not help as to his place of birth
the nearest i can find is this
Name: Joseph Exell
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 29 May 1785
Baptism Place: North Nibley,Gloucester,England
Father: Joseph Exell
Mother: Eleanor
FHL Film Number: 425478

his parents marriage

Joseph
Last name Exell
Birth year -
Marriage year 1782
Spouse's first name(s) Eleanor
Spouse's last name Croome
Place Nibley North
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Source Boyd's marriage index, 1538-1850
Record set England, Boyd's Marriage Indexes, 1538-1850
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages

only speculation i'm afraid

Thank you.that is a great start.They move about a lot. I wonder what he did for a living before Tenterden. Perhaps he was always a printer and his son Joseph followed him into the trade. sonya

if this is mary
Mary Exall

in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
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Name: Mary Exall
Birth Date: 7 Mar 1807
Birth Place: St Anne, Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Gender: Female
Event Type: Birth
Father: Joseph Exall
Mother: Mary
Denomination: Baptist
Piece Title: Piece 1013: Tenterden, Honey Lane (Baptist), 1785-1837

on the same page
Eliza from parish of Great Coggashall Essex born march 21st 1809

Rachel born tenterden march 16th 1811

all registered in tenterden

Thank you all for searching
. I would still like to know where this family were between marriage in 1800 and arrival at Tenterden in about 1810. Their eldest daughter Mary seems to have been born at Limehouse ..Poplar born 1807 on the census 1841/2/ Did Joseph work there at that time? He seems to have had so many occupations and reinvented himself. There was a newpaper advert from a property company in London appointing him as land agent to deal with farm sales in the Tenterden area.in his early days in Kent.

Thank tou all. I would still like to know the ancestors of Joseph Exall Snr and his place of birth and occupation before he arrived in Tenterden..there is a gap from his marriage in 1800 to arrival in Tenterden around 1810

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1349466?d=desc

(above a previous, reference)

Chris :)

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1300989

Thank you Margaret This Joseph Exall is the son of Joseph and Mary from Portsea. He was a printer and vestry clerk..caught forging promisory notes 1847 ended up in van diemens land. Did well in New Zealand

Joseph was aged 61 on his death certificate:

EXALL, JOSEPH age 61
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in TENTERDEN UNION Volume 05 Page 342

Joseph, aged 28 in 1847, was Transported for 14 years for Embezzlement & Forgery!

1841 for ref
High Street, Tenterden, Kent, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Joseph Exall Male 60 1781 - clerk of union ???
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Mary Exall Female 60 1781 -
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Mary Exall Female 30 1811 -
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Joseph Exall Male 20 1821 Kent, England -- printer
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Rachel Greenhill Female 8 1833 Kent, England

Did he have a son called Joseph born abt1819?

There are a lot of interesting newspaper articles about Joseph Exall. It would appear he was Vestry clerk and said he lived in the parish since 1810.

Ah- this is the FMP transcription:

First name(s) Joseph
Last name Exall
Denomination Anglican
Marital status Bachelor
Residence St Marys Portsea
Marriage year 1800
Marriage date 14 Jul 1800
Marriage place Portsea, St Mary
Dedication St Mary
Licence or banns Banns
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Sanders
Spouse's marital status Spinster
Spouse's residence St Marys Portsea
Witness 1 Dally Gleeson
Witness 2 Mary Banks
County Hampshire
Country England

There were witnesses to the wedding:

Mary Banks - I cannot read the other name- perhaps someone else could look. Image is on FMP

its on find my past
cannot find a baptism for him

a maybe for mary if they married in her parish
Mary
Last name Sanders
Birth year -
Baptism year 1774
Baptism date 23 Oct 1774
Baptism place Portsea, St Mary
Dedication St Mary
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Thomas
County Hampshire
Country England
Register type Baptisms, marriages & burials
Register year range 1763-1783
Archive reference CHU 3/1A/8
Archive Portsmouth History Centre
Record set Hampshire, Portsmouth Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

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The 1824 Pigot's Directory for Tenterden lists him as a printer.
In 1826 a letter press printer.
In 1840 a letter press printer, vestry clerk and clerk to the Union.

This looks interesting..where do I find details